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  1. #1
    Harri Kemppainen
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    Dwarven Source Levels

    On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, =BC=D5 =B4=A9=B8=AE(Son, Nuree) wrote:

    > > Actually I think Dwarves would decrease Sources at the same rate Humans
    > do.
    > > They are a non-magical race, who really have no care for the "mystic
    > level"
    > > of an area. As such thier constructions and actions would be solely bas=
    ed
    > on
    > > its usefulness, not on how damaging it is to the surrounding environs.
    > This
    >=20
    > I don't think so. Dwarves make their city at the underground. But, most
    > magical sources are above ground. So, the developement of the dwarven
    > cities has little influence to the magical source level. I agree with
    > Angelo. Half rate of human would fit.

    It's matter of a taste how to do it. One can always say that dwarven
    cities disrupt normal flow of the magic or that underground structures
    does not effect magical energies which are based more on vegetation of
    province.
    Of course dwarves also put strain on local vegetation. They need timber,
    grain etc. from above grounds. My ruling would be that in mountains
    dwarves drop magical level at half rate otherwise at normal RATE.=20

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    Informatikk brukerkurs -
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    Dwarven Source Levels

    I think that since dwarfs don't practice magic that they wouldn't try to avoid
    causing the flow of magic damage. In tough some underground areas may actualy
    come to store up magic this would have to have been created by someone who felt
    the "Flow" of the magic and built the cave around it. Dwarfs build what they
    need/want where they want it! They don't go checking out who this will affect
    the magic in the land. Also, if magic comes from the nature around then
    considder the dwarfs destruction on the land above to get the wood they need to
    create all of there exelent weapons! Coal isn't everywhere you konw!

    Just my toughts....

    Espen Johnsen
    Norway

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    Bearcat
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    Dwarven Source Levels

    >
    >I don't think so. Dwarves make their city at the underground. But, most
    >magical sources are above ground. So, the developement of the dwarven
    >cities has little influence to the magical source level. I agree with
    >Angelo. Half rate of human would fit.
    >
    >- Son, Nuree
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    The flow of Mebhaighl is like the flow of water, if you dig a hole into the
    side of a hill then you disrupt that flow, which changes, and the useful
    water is lost. This is what dwarves do as they dig up their mountains.
    Mountains are not magical because of the air around them. It is the rock
    that makes mebhaighl flow.

    -

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    Espen A. Johnsen
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    Dwarven Source Levels

    COULD is the word....that doesn't mean that every mountain has a cave that is a
    sorce and a dwarf would probably dig out all the gems and sell them the first
    chance they got...

    Espen Johnsen
    Norway

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    Espen A. Johnsen
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    Dwarven Source Levels

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    Dwarven Source Levels

    At 11:53 PM 9/6/97 -0600, Angelo Venzon(avenzon@mail.utexas.edu)wrote:
    >
    > I'v come across a interesting problem. A player pointed out that
    >dwarves, while they do use up many of the resources of the earth, that they
    >aren't as destructive as humans. As such, the player wanted to know if the
    >source levels would decrease at a slower rate in provinces where dwarves
    >live.
    >

    >

    Actually I think Dwarves would decrease Sources at the same rate Humans do.
    They are a non-magical race, who really have no care for the "mystic level"
    of an area. As such thier constructions and actions would be solely based on
    its usefulness, not on how damaging it is to the surrounding environs. This
    is MHO, of course.

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    AMagie666@aol.co
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    Dwarven Source Levels

    Hmmmmm.... I agree with your idea that dwarves defile less, but I personally
    use less benificial numbers. I like to explain it point by point:

    1) Elves reduce source holdings when their populations become large enough,
    though only to a miniscule degree. This is because they must still take
    of the
    earth to survive, but do it in a environmentally low-impact way. They
    also, on the
    average tend to construct only enough to survive(with the rare exception
    of some
    palaces or libraries or something.)

    2) Dwarves are responsible folk, so they aren't wasteful. But they quickly
    indulge in
    massive projects. Take 1 dwarven weaponsmith; he makes hundreds of
    weapons
    in his long lifespan(maybe thousands if he's good.). That's one or two
    tons of
    irreplaceable ore and miles of mining to acquire it. Now lets take a race
    of these
    weaponsmiths, thousands of dwarves toiling away, producing a thousand
    weapons
    a year in Baruk Azhick alone. This doesn't include largescale castle and
    fortifications or other large projects. In short, a prosperous dwarven
    nation
    consumes thousands of tons of ore a year. They'll produce more and better
    with
    it then a human nation will, but it's still being taken. A large scale
    defiling is
    occuring.

    3) Dwarves eat a lot.

    Again, I like the idea, but I think your numbers are a bit to rosy.

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    ┬╝├Ľ ┬┤┬ę┬Ş┬«(Son, Nuree
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    Dwarven Source Levels

    > From: Sepsis
    > Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - Dwarven Source Levels
    >
    > Actually I think Dwarves would decrease Sources at the same rate Humans
    do.
    > They are a non-magical race, who really have no care for the "mystic
    level"
    > of an area. As such thier constructions and actions would be solely based
    on
    > its usefulness, not on how damaging it is to the surrounding environs.
    This
    > is MHO, of course.

    I don't think so. Dwarves make their city at the underground. But, most
    magical sources are above ground. So, the developement of the dwarven
    cities has little influence to the magical source level. I agree with
    Angelo. Half rate of human would fit.

    - - Son, Nuree

  9. #9
    Andrew Kerle
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    Dwarven Source Levels

    In one of the supplements(Cities of the sun I Think) there are
    ancient underground cities which act as a pool for the magical source
    (Can't remember the speling of the word I should be using ;-)).

    IMO dwarves would be the same as elves, except they are underground.
    Elves build stuff betwwen trees, ie bridges, etc, which do not affect
    the source level.

    Dwarves only dig passages where there is no alternative, or when
    mining, and all dwarven work reflects the stones innate beauty.
    Dwarves are so at home in the earth that I think their influence
    would be minimal.

    Just My Opinions..

    AJK

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