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02-21-2004, 01:00 PM #11
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ecliptic schrieb:
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> ecliptic wrote:
> Oh yeah? Then explain why it isn`t out. The last update was a year ago. I can write an entire novel in less then a year.
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Today is Februarry 21st 2004.
Would someone please note in his calendar for the 21st February 2005 to
remind me that I can go and download the excellent written and exciting
new Birthright novel that our friend here has written and uploaded for
free for us to read?
bye
Michael
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02-21-2004, 03:38 PM #12
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Originally posted by ecliptic@Feb 21 2004, 04:17 AM
Oh yeah? Then explain why it isn't out. The last update was a year ago. I can write an entire novel in less then a year. I am sure it doesn't take them that long to do some rewriting in something they already have practically written up.
They should hand it off to someone else if they can't actually get it done.
If you ever were to find yourself in a context where you'd have to work in what is called, with a somewhat pedestrian fashion, a 'team,' you might be surprised to learn that you might spend more time debating the overall project, coming up with ideas, and revising drafts than you actually would hacking new material. Your payment for all those hours also comes out to $0. Congrats. That might mean other commitments will occasionally take priority. Like, work. You might even want to play games, not just write rules for them.
Now, would your post be considered an application to join the team? If so, I'd advise you to 1) show your ability to work in a team context over a long period of time (you must obviously be very good at this) and 2) you should hack out some material to show off how good you actually are.
So, either start making your hackwork, or kindly moderate your tone a bit.
If you wish to complain about tardiness, please direct your complaints primarily at me, since I'm the tardiest tard there is.Jan E. Juvstad.
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02-21-2004, 04:01 PM #13
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More in general as to what Unearthed Arcana brings to the table, I'd say it's a whole lot - not the least of which is a very strong reaffirmation of the sections on creating or customizing stuff set forth in the core books, such as 'customizing your character.'
Since the material is all OGL, it may be well worth a good, long look as to what is suitable to adapt for the BRCS, if not as a standard rule, then as a variant.
The bloodline section I don't find to personally fit the Birthright idea of a bloodline all that well - while it is supposedly inspired by Birthright, the implementation is a good step away from Birthright, and it doesn't 'do' all the things the Birthright bloodline system should do, especially with regards to ruling realms. Mechanically, it looks fine and balanced, and I suppose you could make it fit the setting with some effort. Personally, I'd say the material that was published in Dragon is far superior in terms of how well it fits with the setting and the rules, if you're looking for something with an 'official' stamp given out by WotC or a WotC licensee.
Now, the incantations section looks like an interesting alternatative mechanic for incorporating realm spells - extending the casting time a fair bit, of course, and allowing for longer breaks.
Wounds/vitality, armor as DR and so forth are classic variants, of course, which a lot seem to think fits the setting better. Of course, the wounds/vitality system in UA is full of holes.
I haven't taken too much of a look at the rules for reputation and honor and such, but they seem to be a bit soft, and not really have all that much mechanical significance.
Taint might fit as an alternatative way of handling Azrai bloodlines.
Some of the Spelltouched feats might be cool as blood abilities.
Unearthed Arcana brings a whole lot to the table, not the least of which is apparently a push towards a more open game philosophy from WotC. Game design-wise, it'll hopefully have a positive effect on the various online D&D communities as well.Jan E. Juvstad.
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02-21-2004, 05:20 PM #14
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Ariadne schrieb:
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> Ariadne wrote:
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Originally posted by ecliptic@Feb 21 2004, 04:17 AM
Oh yeah? Then explain why it isn`t out. The last update was a year ago. I can write an entire novel in less then a year. I am sure it doesn`t take them that long to do some rewriting in something they already have practically written up.
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> They should hand it off to someone else if they can`t actually get it done.
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Except Gary of course... [crowd cheering in the background: We hate
Gary....] ;-)
bye
Michael
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02-21-2004, 05:20 PM #15
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Mark_Aurel schrieb:
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> Mark_Aurel wrote:
>Originally posted by ecliptic@Feb 21 2004, 04:17 AM
Oh yeah? Then explain why it isn`t out. The last update was a year ago. I can write an entire novel in less then a year. I am sure it doesn`t take them that long to do some rewriting in something they already have practically written up.
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> They should hand it off to someone else if they can`t actually get it done.
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I can´t. Even considering the much less difficult stuff that we had to
write back at school I had my greatest problems when it came to writing
good essays or whatever was needed...
> If you ever were to find yourself in a context where you`d have to work in what is called, with a somewhat pedestrian fashion, a `team,` you might be surprised to learn that you might spend more time debating the overall project, coming up with ideas, and revising drafts than you actually would hacking new material.
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You are making assumptions here if you don´t know ecliptic personally....
> Your payment for all those hours also comes out to $0. Congrats.
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From my side they could have the eternal worship as demi-gods if they
manage to actually get something that is reasonable, and the majority of
the community likes it :-)
bye
Michael
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02-21-2004, 07:02 PM #16Originally posted by ConjurerDragon@Feb 21 2004, 06:20 PM
Except Gary of course... [crowd cheering in the background: We hate Gary....] ;-)
May Khirdai always bless your sword and his lightning struck your enemies!
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02-21-2004, 09:00 PM #17
At 05:49 PM 2/21/2004 +0100, Michael wrote:
>Except Gary of course... [crowd cheering in the background: We hate
>Gary....] ;-)
Hey, that`s not very... oh... yeah, right.
Gary
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02-21-2004, 09:20 PM #18
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Ariadne schrieb:
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> Ariadne wrote:
> [QUOTE=Ariadne,Feb 21 2004, 08:02 PM]Originally Posted by ConjurerDragon,Feb 21 2004, 06:20 PM
> Tssss, tssss, tssss
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I can stand 3 Tsssss - but to send it twice is too much for me I
surrender...
Just in case: It was your intention to send your message twice and you
don´t have some virus on your PC that did this?
Something completely different: Has someone else noticed that the small
snail that "Spongebob" (the TV cartoon) keeps as pet is named Gary? ;-)
bye
Michael
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02-21-2004, 09:40 PM #19
I MUST protest.
I think this Gary-hating thing has gone too far!
I hereby start the counter-hate-Gary movement. Dedicated to hating all
Gary-haters.
Cheers
Bjørn
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Subject: Re: Unearthed Arcana and what it brings to the table [2#2283]
At 05:49 PM 2/21/2004 +0100, Michael wrote:
>Except Gary of course... [crowd cheering in the background: We hate
>Gary....] ;-)
Hey, that`s not very... oh... yeah, right.
Gary
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02-21-2004, 10:27 PM #20
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Originally posted by The Green Knight@Feb 21 2004, 09:40 PM
I MUST protest.
I think this Gary-hating thing has gone too far!
I hereby start the counter-hate-Gary movement. Dedicated to hating all Gary-haters.
If we get a two thirds majority in favour of hating someone else, we can then take submissions from the community as to who we should hate instead; otherwise we can all be generic Gary haters and anyone who doesn't like it, can house rule it.
CM.
PS.
At some stage, it'd be nice to know who Gary is - but as this is an internet forum, facts are not absolutely necessary for construction of an opinion. :blink:
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