Blood Enemies Questions

[Jeremy Reaban]

I finally got Blood Enemies, which I ordered from a mail order company way
way back in May. (It was originally damaged in the mail - then returned,
then replaced, but they couldn't replace another thing I ordered from them
at the same time- Cities of the Sun - it's now Out of Print apparently, so
they delayed resending it to see if they could find one)

Anyway, I have some questions.

First of all, I noticed a mention of a psionicist. (One of the people eaten
by the Hydra was one). I thought there were no psionicists in BR. Has this
changed? On a related note, in the entry for the Wolf - one of the
interviewers has powers of telepathy and empathy. Psionics again?

Secondly, the Itave? Are they detailed anywhere? (Cities of the Sun?)

And also, in a couple cases, just the killing of some blooded people, as
opposed to impaling them through the heart, seems to increase the killers
bloodline (as well as someone in the area). For instance, the Chimera. Not
that I mind making it harder for players, but I think the rules should
apply to everyone equally, unless there is a good explanation.

Jeremy


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[Cymbelline]

Jeremy Reaban wrote:

> First of all, I noticed a mention of a psionicist. (One of the people
> eaten
> by the Hydra was one). I thought there were no psionicists in BR. Has
> this
> changed? On a related note, in the entry for the Wolf - one of the
> interviewers has powers of telepathy and empathy. Psionics again?
>

No, as far as I can tell it has not changed. But I am beginning to
believe that maybe, just maybe, the Maestians (have I spelled that
correctly? I don't know think, but then again...) had some sort of
psionic ability. Could these people who were killed have been
psionic? Who knows...?

Regards,
Cymbelline.

[MHahn59022@aol.co]

In a message dated 97-08-19 07:27:08 EDT, you write:

>

I think that it is much more likely for a psionicist to be mistaken for an
enchanter, rather than vice verse, given the fact that most people have never
even heard of weird mind powers, and have heard of weird magic powers.

Michael Hahn
You can run, but you'll only die tired.

[breye@earthlink.ne]

MHahn59022@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 97-08-19 07:27:08 EDT, you write:
>
> really fit the setting? Besides which point, it could really be an
> enchanter or something that people THINK is a psionicist....after all,
> magic is very rare right? Maybe someone is just bamboozling the
> witnesses.
> >>
>
> I think that it is much more likely for a psionicist to be mistaken for an
> enchanter, rather than vice verse, given the fact that most people have never
> even heard of weird mind powers, and have heard of weird magic powers.
>

Psionicist? My opinion is that someone goofed, and it slipped by, but
if you are looking for ways to explain how or why a Psionicist is there,
you could say that the Psionicist was an adventurer from another world.

Bry

[Paul Lefebvre]

MHahn59022@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 97-08-19 07:27:08 EDT, you write:
>
>
> really fit the setting? Besides which point, it could really be an
> enchanter or something that people THINK is a psionicist....after
> all,
> magic is very rare right? Maybe someone is just bamboozling the
> witnesses.
> >>
>
> I think that it is much more likely for a psionicist to be mistaken
> for an
> enchanter, rather than vice verse, given the fact that most people
> have never
> even heard of weird mind powers, and have heard of weird magic powers.
>
> Michael Hahn

Perhaps a psionicist has immigrated from another world then...

Paul L.

[Paul Lefebvre]

Cymbelline wrote:

> Jeremy Reaban wrote:
>
> > First of all, I noticed a mention of a psionicist. (One of the
> people
> > eaten
> > by the Hydra was one). I thought there were no psionicists in BR.
> Has
> > this
> > changed? On a related note, in the entry for the Wolf - one of the
> > interviewers has powers of telepathy and empathy. Psionics again?
> >
>
> No, as far as I can tell it has not changed. But I am beginning to
> believe that maybe, just maybe, the Maestians (have I spelled that
> correctly? I don't know think, but then again...) had some sort of
> psionic ability. Could these people who were killed have been
> psionic? Who knows...?
>
> Regards,
> Cymbelline.
>

That's an interesting idea...they were supposed to be different from
everyone else in some way weren't they? The Serpent caused them to all
be slain by outer planar creatures from what I understand...then there
are those mysterious creatures called the "Dhoumaire" (I think....the
one's who wait, or the one's who watch). In my campaign, I am planning
on using them as a group of migrant Irda that fled Krynn before or
during the Chaos war. Actually, one thing that I'm really curious
about is magic...there are references to the Vos once being powerful
sorcerors...but if they were all simply magicians, with illusions and
divinations, this doesn't really hold true. And in the Book of
Magecraft, there are references to ley lines BEFORE Deismaar, and the
fact that the elves had the ability to use them...does that mean that
non-blooded elves have the ability to use sources and ley lines??
Additionally, it's kind of nitpicking, but if the elves always had true
magic, and the humans only had lesser magic, how the heck did the elves
ever lose?? One elven mage with some well-cast spells could decimate
or terrify an opposing human army...can you imagine even a 10th lvl
mage going against a magician with basically only illusions and
divinations..?? The humans had clerics and everything, but clerics
aren't always the most useful in war, facing units of enemies...
Also, what happens when a non-blooded human mage in Cerilia travels
to another world like Toril?? Can they use all schools of magic?? What
about a Torilian wizard (obviously not blooded) travelling to
Cerillia?? Would they lose the ability to cast any spells higher than
lvl 2 or the Illusion and Divination schools??
Lastly, what about the Magian. He is some sort of Lich, and even
was before he arrived on Cerilia and gained a bloodline...and the spells
required to become a lich require a lot more than illusions and
divinations or 1st and 2nd lvl spells of the other schools...how would
he have become a lich?
If anyone can answer any of these questions that would be great
(including TSR staff). I'm new to this list, so if it's been discussed
before, I never received any of those messages.

Paul L.

[Paul Lefebvre]

breye@earthlink.net wrote:

> MHahn59022@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 97-08-19 07:27:08 EDT, you write:
> >
> > > really fit the setting? Besides which point, it could really be an
>
> > enchanter or something that people THINK is a psionicist....after
> all,
> > magic is very rare right? Maybe someone is just bamboozling the
> > witnesses.
> > >>
> >
> > I think that it is much more likely for a psionicist to be mistaken
> for an
> > enchanter, rather than vice verse, given the fact that most people
> have never
> > even heard of weird mind powers, and have heard of weird magic
> powers.
> >
>
> Psionicist? My opinion is that someone goofed, and it slipped by, but
>
> if you are looking for ways to explain how or why a Psionicist is
> there,
> you could say that the Psionicist was an adventurer from another
> world.
>
>

Well yeah, someone probably did goof, unless there's something they're
not telling us, but it's also interesting to try and fit it in somehow.
Now that it's in print, TSR will.

Paul L.

[Paul Lefebvre]

MagnusKhn@aol.com wrote:

> I also believe that an off-world wizard will only have access to
> magician
> magic while in Cerilia or the Shadow, as the power comes from the
> land, and
> is governed by Ruornil, and neither of them (nor I ) would be happy
> about an
> offworld mage taking over... also, Elminster reduced to a magician is
> just so
> dang funny...
> ...(V)agnus |{haine...
> ************

That is EXACTLY why I brought up the point...trying to decide ways
to beat on elminster a bit in my campaign (and if he was simply a
magician for a while)...and some way to drop Drizzt...the ranger's
lasted way too long and it's getting boring.. I think what the realms
need is some MAJOR renovations where a bunch of the old stock NPCs and
institutions get whipped....maybe that's what the Phaerimm are
for...
Paul L.

[Sepsis]

At 01:29 PM 8/20/97 -0400, (MagnusKhn@aol.com)wrote:
>

>
>(Side note- Since halflings did not come into Cerilia until
>a while after Deismaar, how did they become a blooded race?
>Perhaps purist Elves invested away their human blood and gave it to
>Halflings?)
>

>

There is no doubt that the explosion at Deismaar had a few major effects on
the SW. Blooding the native race could have been one of them. I have also
heard(in a novel prehaps)that the first Halflings arrived on Cerilia as the
blast took Deismaar and ripped a hole between the two worlds. Blooding them
as they arrived.

Sepsis, richt@metrolink.net

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the province of life or death;
the road to survival or ruin.
It is mandatory that it be thoroughly studied."
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[dsolie]

Paul Lefebvre wrote:
>
> dsolie wrote:
>
> > Paul Lefebvre wrote:
> > > And in the Book of
> > > Magecraft, there are references to ley lines BEFORE Deismaar, and
> > the
> > > fact that the elves had the ability to use them...does that mean
> > that
> > > non-blooded elves have the ability to use sources and ley lines??
> > Elves are so attuned to nature that any elf could become a true
> > mage....
> But only someone with realm magic (ie. a bloodline) can use ley
> lines, sources, and realm spells in the setting....
>
"True magic magic includes all other schools of wizardry, but only
elves, half-elves, and blooded humans can command its arcane power."
BR rulebook, pg 12, 2nd column.

Realm magic can only be used by wizards who can control true magic, and
then only if they own a source....