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    I saw this over on Randy's site and thought I'd post it here to see if anyone knows anything more about this.

    Hackright by Kenzer

    Scroll down the post on that link, and you'll see 2 entries in the product list that ought to make your eyebrows perk up. From what I've heard, Hackmaster was sort of a "joke" system. Hopefully Birthright won't become a comedy act...

    (Just in case the email list converter thing doesn't port the BB COde well, here's the full text for the link

    http://www.kenzerco.com/forums/showflat.ph...sb=5&o=&fpart=1
    "You need people of intelligence on this mission... quest... thing."

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    Hmm, looks like my predictions were wrong. The title "HackRight - The Continent of Cerilia" seems to indicate they are serious about continuing this HackRight line.

    Some previous discussion about HackRight can be found at:
    http://www.birthright.net/forums/ind...=ST&f=2&t=2253

    Cheers,
    Don E

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    i' confused about that.. i don't understand the "legacy"" of that product..
    it's an official product ( without us ) ? and it's not free ?
    KEN 2123 Hackmaster: Hackright $34.99
    KEN 2125 HackMaster: HackRight - The Continent of Cerilia $34.99

    Wizard of the coast agree with them ?
    Isn't the same product than us ? But, it's the same "background" with different rules ?
    Why have two systems ?

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    monney talks.

    + we have new channels to recrute new players to the on-line comunity.

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    > Wizard of the coast agree with them ?

    > Isn`t the same product than us ? But, it`s the same

    > "background" with different rules ?

    > Why have two systems ?



    Maybe we should just count ourselves lucky they didn`t decide to cut out

    the no-profit system.



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    Originally posted by teloft@Feb 13 2004, 02:04 AM
    monney talks.

    + we have new channels to recrute new players to the on-line comunity.
    Actually, FWIHH Kenzer & Company got a license from WotC before the first HackMaster book came out to use anything from AD&D.

    Then Kenzer & Company made the "mistake" of hiring a Birthright fanatic

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    My interest here would be a "Continent of Cerilia" that took an interest in

    those places that made most sense from a Hack perspective, rather than just

    doing a Hack version of the same places that the original product

    concentrated on. Some overlap certainly makse sense, especially when the

    potential for a humorous reading of the familiar is there, but I would be

    interested in seeing new realms detailed as well, even those realms are

    chosen because they are the most likely to appeal to the Knights of the

    Dinner Table, or their Peers.



    Kenneth Gauck

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    First off, I wanted to say thanks to Foundry Dwarf for so actively answering the questions in this matter. It would have been an easier thing to simply drop a one timer to "defend" the Hackmaster line and then disappear.

    Thanks FD!

    Now my question is (perhaps) loaded. How much "parody" is there in a typical Hackmaster system? Once this product hits the shelves, am I going to be able to get anything out of it (I'm not interested in parady games at all.)

    For example, are the mechanics "sound 3.5" or are they more in the vein of providing goofy effects for humourous situations (IE. What happens when I slip on a bananna peel during the Royal procession?)

    Basically, I want to know if I can buy this product, strip out the humour, and have a "seriously typical" campaign setting?
    "You need people of intelligence on this mission... quest... thing."

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    OK, to put things straight: HackMaster and the whole line of products are not "serious" products; they all present you with apparently AD&D-compliant rules that work on a parody basis. Good examples of such concepts are the 40+ fireball spells presented in the HM/PHB, the fact that stitching wounds up deals you 1/4 hit points per stitch (yes, the stitching neadle is on the weapon list, with a 0.25 hit point damage rating&#33, and, honestly, the whole book goes on like this...

    If you want to play a fun-only game, HackMaster is good, but I would not appreciate anyone running Birthright games, where the High Priestess of the Gawd of War goes in battle, wielding her +15 HackMaster (yes, an artefact which appeared in HackMaster)!

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    > For example, are the mechanics "sound 3.5" or are they more in

    the vein of providing goofy effects for humourous situations (IE. What

    happens when I slip on a bananna peel during the Royal procession?)

    >

    > Basically, I want to know if I can buy this product, strip out the

    humour...



    As I understand it Hackmaster is 1E D&D modified quite sanely but with a lot

    of parody in jokes in terms/magic items etc.
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