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  1. #1
    Bond007
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    Bloodtheft

    I'm sure ths topic has been asked and talked about a lot, however, I just
    joined the mailing list last month. so I am kinda new to the topics that
    have been discussed.
    Basically, what DOES a character gain if he bloodthefts another blooded
    character?
    How does this affect his current bloodline (especially if he kills a scion
    of Azrai)?
    Here is the way I play it now:
    We keep a tab of the bloodline. For instance, say a 30 brenna line gets 3
    points from an andurias line, 7 from azrai, and 2 from masaela, he would
    have a 42 bloodline of brenna, however, it would be 7% andurias, 17% azrai,
    and 5% masaela.
    Does this affect the pc's current line ESPECIALLY if say the azrai line
    would become 50% or more of the total bloodline...what if andurias became
    50% or more of the total bloodline?
    Now, I also play that after a PC (or NPC for that matter) bloodthefts, he
    gains an amount of bloodline points as described in the rule book plus 1
    point of stat choosen randomly as a result of draining the person's
    "soul").
    Does anyone play that a PC gains a power from a scion killed tis way? What
    are some ideas?
    Bondman

  2. #2
    Frederic Lavallee
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    Bloodtheft

    Bond007 wrote:
    >
    > I'm sure ths topic has been asked and talked about a lot, however, I just
    > joined the mailing list last month. so I am kinda new to the topics that
    > have been discussed.
    > Basically, what DOES a character gain if he bloodthefts another blooded
    > character?
    > How does this affect his current bloodline (especially if he kills a scion
    > of Azrai)?
    > Here is the way I play it now:
    > We keep a tab of the bloodline. For instance, say a 30 brenna line gets 3
    > points from an andurias line, 7 from azrai, and 2 from masaela, he would
    > have a 42 bloodline of brenna, however, it would be 7% andurias, 17% azrai,
    > and 5% masaela.
    > Does this affect the pc's current line ESPECIALLY if say the azrai line
    > would become 50% or more of the total bloodline...what if andurias became
    > 50% or more of the total bloodline?
    > Now, I also play that after a PC (or NPC for that matter) bloodthefts, he
    > gains an amount of bloodline points as described in the rule book plus 1
    > point of stat choosen randomly as a result of draining the person's
    > "soul").
    > Does anyone play that a PC gains a power from a scion killed tis way? What
    > are some ideas?
    > Bondman


    Personnally, we resolved bloodtheft by trowing a 1d00 dice. The chances
    of obtaining a power from a kill equal the number of Bloodpoint gained.
    This way, it don't boost much my players (i don't want them to become
    killing vampire machine).
    The Maker of Kings

  3. #3
    c558382@showme.missouri.
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    Bloodtheft

    Having just read the "Bloodtooth" post by Bondman, I want to point out a
    problem with the several methods of transfer of blood strength.

    Problem 1 (too conservative)
    Bloodtheft, killing another regent yields 1 pt if the deceased was weaker,
    2 pts if stronger, or 20% if the deceased was the last of his line.
    but,
    Investiture can transfer a bloodline intact. Even with an unwilling
    victim, time will overcome the repeated saves against death magic,
    assuming captivity.

    My solution has been to attempt to equalize these methods as follows:
    Kill a weaker bloodline in any fashion, 1 pt
    Kill a stronger bloodline in any fashion, 2 pts
    Kill any bloodline trough a called shot to the heart, role dice for up to
    half of the victim's blood strength. eg. victim has 32 blood points,
    his killer rolls 2d8, the result being his aquired blood strength. I
    recommend a dice for every 10pts or so to create a curve.
    Invest an unwilling victim's blood strength, role dice for up to half of
    the victim's blood strength, once they fail the save vs death magic.
    The rest is lost.
    Invest a willing participlant- see next item.

    Problem 2 (too liberal)
    With investiture, blood lines might proliferate. Proud papa has three
    children (no problem), then invests his bloodline upon a loyal vassal or
    lieutenant on his deathbed.

    Investiture conveys all the blood strength.

    It seems there are two kinds of cases here. #1, regent has no heirs, has
    not passed on his bloodline to living offspring; #2, regent gratuitously
    wants to pass one one last blood despite heirs.

    In case number one, the rules should stand as they are.

    But, in case number two regents should not be able to pass their full
    bloodline on to another, despite having heirs, in full. If you don't like
    your children, get one of them to invest with you into your new regent.
    Or just pass on a fraction of your bloodline. Deathbed investitures,
    should not happen without A) no heirs, or B) only a fraction of the
    strength being passed on (tired blood?).

    Kennth Gauck
    c558382@showme.missouri.edu

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