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    Quoting Terence <terence@COGECO.CA>:

    > How feasible would an official "next age" of Cerilia be? Although this

    > may be quite an undertaking, it will provide some fun debate, as well as

    > letting the real world that the birthright community is still quite alive.



    Where is Mr. McSorley? I believe it may be tme for or semi-regular rant about gunpowder

    anytime now! :)



    I have envisaged a number of "near-future" scenarios, as well as an alternate history

    (one without Deismaar). My current favourite is, as was hinted above, an electoral system

    in Anuire that is slowly falling apart and a resurgent Basarji Federation, with the Brecht

    people hegemonising a bit ore and becoming the other "superpower" in my little bipolar

    world system.



    In such a scenario, the Gorgon has lithified to the extent that he is easily dealt with by

    cannon artillery. ;)



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    What if the Gorgon was the one who invented/ utilized gunpowder?&#33;? Being a wizard (with genius+ intelligence), alchemy should be right up his alley...heh heh heh&#33;

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    Osprey:

    > What if the Gorgon was the one who invented/ utilized gunpowder?&#33;?

    > Being a wizard (with genius+ intelligence), alchemy should be right up

    > his alley...heh heh heh&#33;

    > ;)



    Don`t get me started about this again...



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    >Don`t get me started about this again

    >

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    >John Machin





    Now John... Play nice... :)



    The Cerilian Smokepowder is harmless... still quite a few years away from

    Cannons and side arms ... Does anyone out there remember what dragon the

    article about Naval ramming and smokepowder was in?



    -Anakin

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    Anakin Miller:

    > The Cerilian Smokepowder is harmless... still quite a few years away

    > from Cannons and side arms ... Does anyone out there remember what dragon

    > the article about Naval ramming and smokepowder was in?



    Mainly its the whole "The Gorgon is a wizard" thing. I never saw the point in

    that. I can`t believe that the violently overconfident god-like master of arms

    is going to get up one morning and say "I think I will spend the next few

    years becoming one of the most powerful wizards on the continent".



    Bah I say.



    Why can`t he just have pet wizards that he occassionally kills off, like all

    the rest of his minions?



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    Anakin Miller schrieb:



    >>Don`t get me started about this again

    >>

    >>--

    >>John Machin

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    >>

    >Now John... Play nice... :)

    >

    >The Cerilian Smokepowder is harmless... still quite a few years away from

    >Cannons and side arms ... Does anyone out there remember what dragon the

    >article about Naval ramming and smokepowder was in?

    >- Anakin

    >

    Dragon 232 article "Weapon of the Waves" had not smokepowder but

    "Hellpowder" ;-)

    bye

    Michael

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    Mainly its the whole "The Gorgon is a wizard" thing. I never saw the point in
    that. I can`t believe that the violently overconfident god-like master of arms
    is going to get up one morning and say "I think I will spend the next few
    years becoming one of the most powerful wizards on the continent".

    Bah I say.

    Why can`t he just have pet wizards that he occassionally kills off, like all
    the rest of his minions?

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    I think he&#39;d be far less of a threat as a pure fighter...FAR less.

    If you want to get really evil about it, though, converting him to 3.5 standards, you could convert alot of those wizard levels to Eldritch Knight and make him even sicker...I know, I know, how much sicker does he need to get?

    Although I see your point, and it&#39;s a valid one, I think the flaw is in Raesene&#39;s background story - if he is such a bad-assed wizard, it should certainly be written into his character background piece as a significant part of his development. As it is, I agree that it seems "tacked on" for extra power. I don&#39;t mind him being multi(dual) classed, but I do want a better reason for it.

    -Osprey

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    Who needs smokepowder if there are fireballs and mighty divine magic?

    The proposal of a "new age" would be very difficult, because every BR-DM has his own taste of the worlds future.
    my purpose is now to lead you into the Pallace where you shall have a clear and delightful view of all those various objects, and scattered excellencies, that lye up and down upon the face of creation, which are only seen by those that go down into the Seas, and by no other....

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    > The proposal of a "new age" would be very difficult, because

    > every BR-DM has his own taste of the worlds future.



    My taste includes a steampunk Cerelian setting where the borders between

    The World and the Shadow World are almost completely shattered by the

    Gargon`s release of corruptong Dark Sources, the primary source of

    arcane magic. Regency is the only thing that keeps the powers of

    Steamcraft operational, giving man and dwarf alike the ability to help

    drive off the Shadow Wilderness. The gods have once again intervened,

    but Laerme`s avatar has been cleverly captured by The Gorgon who seeks

    to exinguish Larme`s Flame of Hope from the world...



    --Lord Rahvin
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    Osprey:

    > I think he`d be far less of a threat as a pure fighter...FAR less.



    Possibly, but in 2e he could look at people and kill them once per round for

    free. That`s pretty damn threatening if you ask me!;)



    > Although I see your point, and it`s a valid one, I think the flaw is in

    > Raesene`s background story - if he is such a bad-assed wizard, it should

    > certainly be written into his character background piece as a

    > significant part of his development. As it is, I agree that it seems

    > "tacked on" for extra power. I don`t mind him being

    > multi(dual) classed, but I do want a better reason for it.



    Exactly.

    I don`t see anywhere the kind of career change needed to make the Gorgon the

    equal of pretty much any wizard in Anuire (bar that Lichey Sidhe from PS:

    Tuarhievel... no comment...). I like the idea of the Gorgon as a brutal tyrant

    who plans well, but I do not see that means he -must- be a wizard. I think its

    more interesting if he isn`t, and if he just has a cadre of wizards who are

    trying to curry his favour (i.e. stay alive) and murder their rivals.



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