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    I have long since abandoned the idea that every little trade guild trades

    with every other little guild. Instead, I prefer that trade networks trade

    with trade networks, or to put it another way, the realm of Stjordvik

    Traders trades with the Boeruine Trading Guild. The value of trade is

    limited by total number of holdings. The income of trade is 1/3 the value

    of trading holdings per season. No one trades in winter.



    So if your guilder has 15 levels of holdings trading, you get 5 GB of income

    per season three times per year.



    Generally, all trade goes through a central trade city on your end, to a

    central trade city on the other end. If you share central trade cities,

    your trade can`t be interdicted externally. Both Three Trees Traders and

    Stjordvik Traders base themselves out of Hollingholmen. Nearly all external

    trade among Rjurik in the Highlands and the Taelshore passes through

    Hollingholmen. Stjordvik Traders has bulk and break points at Nolien

    (Dhoesone), Tariene (Boeruine), Leivika (Svinik), and Hollingholmen.



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    Kenneth:

    > I have long since abandoned the idea that every little trade guild

    > trades with every other little guild. Instead, I prefer that trade

    > networks trade with trade networks, or to put it another way, the

    > realm of Stjordvik Traders trades with the Boeruine Trading Guild.

    > The value of trade is limited by total number of holdings. The

    > income of trade is 1/3 the value of trading holdings per season.

    > No one trades in winter.



    John H. and I decided for our (aborted, but restarted by him) PBeM to use a

    system of hierarchically ranked `trade centres`, with routes linking them.

    These routes were rated with a trade potential (usualy between 5-15) and

    guilder-types could create "trade holdings" to represent centralised control

    over a certain route.



    Come to think of it, this system probably arose from various conversations

    that Kenneth and I had off-list a year or so ago...

    Ring any bells Kenneth?



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    ----- Original Message -----

    From: "John Machin" <trithemiuS@PARADISE.NET.NZ>

    Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:04 AM



    > Come to think of it, this system probably arose from various

    > conversations that Kenneth and I had off-list a year or so ago...

    > Ring any bells Kenneth?



    Yes, it reflects my interest in place theory. I am sure I discussed it with

    you, John, off-list, but I also posted the idea to the list on Tuesday, May

    29, 2001 under the subject "Trade Routes pt 2".



    My current system still relies on trade occuring through key points. Now

    instead of tracking these trade zones geographically, I use the trade realms

    themselves to define what the zone looks like.



    Kenneth Gauck

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    Quoting Kenneth Gauck <kgauck@MCHSI.COM>:

    > Yes, it reflects my interest in place theory. I am sure I discussed it

    > with you, John, off-list, but I also posted the idea to the list on

    > Tuesday, May 29, 2001 under the subject "Trade Routes pt 2".



    That must have been during my "BR-L downtime". ;)



    > My current system still relies on trade occuring through key points.

    > Now instead of tracking these trade zones geographically, I use the

    > trade realms themselves to define what the zone looks like.



    Do you find you need to do a lot of recalculating with this method?



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    ----- Original Message -----

    From: "John Machin" <trithemius@PARADISE.NET.NZ>

    Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 10:11 PM





    > Do you find you need to do a lot of recalculating with this method?



    No, but I control all the NPC guild realms, so trade is pretty stable. If

    it were used in a PBeM, players could arrange shifting trade arrangements

    every turn, but then the hardest part is deciding whether both sides have

    the availble holdings, then you just figure income based on how many

    holdings are engaged in trade. Its no more difficult than taking contested

    holdings into account.



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