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    Are there any new BR computer games? Gorgon's Alliance was good. It seems all the new computer games have bugs and patches to find to fix. Wish they would let me playtest a few then the bugs would all be known and fixed before marketing.

    One can only wait and do
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    Orginally posted by MarcIDMT
    Are there any new BR computer games? Gorgon's Alliance was good.
    There are currently no plans for further Birthright PC games. The first was actually a bit of a flop. Many people who were not familiar with Birthright gave it negative or average reviews.
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    It came out in a time when PC RPG were dead, and it was buggy.

    I think if Birthright got a graphics upgraded, unbuggied, and updated for the year 2002...it would be a huge hit.
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    I've never played Gorgon's Alliance. Not worth it?

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    Orginally posted by Sellenus
    I've never played Gorgon's Alliance. Not worth it?
    I was rather impressed with it (for the time period it was released, the graphics in games have developed significantly since). You can easily secure a copy of it on ebay for $5-10 plus shipping. I think it brings a whole new dimension of understanding of the game to players and DMs alike. The patches available online fixed the majority of the problems (though I have foung a few that still exist).
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    It's a great TBS. The Dungeon Crawls aren't very good, but it's there for a change of pace.
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    Although it was easy to become emperor al all levels it was a very good way to learn domain turns. and also the geography of anuire with its rulers
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    Has anyone used the character stats and equipment from the CD game for their own game?
    I enjoyed the CD game. Yes it was buggy and its graphics and sound were poor but it was the only way I could play BR for a time.
    I prefered the Sidhelien realms, of course.
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    ----- Original Message -----

    From: "irdeggman" <brnetboard@BIRTHRIGHT.NET>

    Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 5:32 AM





    > Changing a core class that was a shared core class (that is a

    > core class of the core rules and a core class of the BR setting

    > (from 2nd ed)) is outside of the scope of this project.



    Had the original creators of BR used this guiding principle we would not

    have the Magician clas, would not have changed a core race, elimintated

    gnomes, eliminated the use of priests for elves, altered the core equipment

    list, or made other kinds of changes.



    If the consensus of the BR community is to make a change to the core rules,

    well, isn`t that *exactly* what setting material does. Otherwise why even

    bother with a CS and get right on to the atlas, listing everything according

    to the core rules? I fully understand that one may not regard twelve voters

    as representative of anything, but that`s a different issue.



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    Originally posted by kgauck@Apr 2 2004, 08:00 AM
    ----- Original Message -----

    From: "irdeggman" <brnetboard@BIRTHRIGHT.NET>

    Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 5:32 AM





    > Changing a core class that was a shared core class (that is a

    > core class of the core rules and a core class of the BR setting

    > (from 2nd ed)) is outside of the scope of this project.



    Had the original creators of BR used this guiding principle we would not

    have the Magician clas, would not have changed a core race, elimintated

    gnomes, eliminated the use of priests for elves, altered the core equipment

    list, or made other kinds of changes.



    If the consensus of the BR community is to make a change to the core rules,

    well, isn`t that *exactly* what setting material does. Otherwise why even

    bother with a CS and get right on to the atlas, listing everything according

    to the core rules? I fully understand that one may not regard twelve voters

    as representative of anything, but that`s a different issue.



    Kenneth Gauck

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    This looks like you are comparing apples to oranges.

    The magician class wasn&#39;t a change to a core class it was a new class. A concept that is more fully embraced via the 3/3.5 mechanics (that is creating new classes).

    Having elves not being priests was likewise not a change to the core classes.

    The point I was making was that the paladin was a &#39;core&#39; 2nd ed class and was a &#39;core&#39; BR 2nd class.

    Paladin is a &#39;core&#39; 3rd/3.5 ed class and there is no reason not to take a stance that it shouldn&#39;t be a &#39;core&#39; 3.5 BR class.

    Again - my resistance to including the option of a paladin as a prestige class is based on the context in which people have posted their reasons for using prestige classes for paladins. They (generally) did not have anything to do with the BR campaign specifically, they had to do with people who didn&#39;t like the concept of a paladin - most common stance was the use of a Holy Warrior type of class instead.
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