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    The exact benifits of master administrator and regent focus still have to be decided, but will probably go with +3 for the later. I've always thought the +4 was a little high.

    As for what races can get what feats, the BRCS has a small section on regional feats that are tied to a particular region or race. Master Administrator wasn't one of these, although I'd consider changing that if enough people thought it necessary. Elves are already restricted from a lot of feats though (assuming you use the region feat rules).

    Regional feats: Conqueror (Anuire, Vos), Discipline (Anuire, Dwarf), Dwarven Artisan (Dwarf), Elven Artisan (Elf), Forestdweller (Rjurik, Elf), Hardiness (Rjurik, Vos, Dwarf), Highlander (Rjurik, Vos), Inscribe War Tattoo (Vos), Master Diplomat (Anuire, Brechtür, Khinasi), Master Merchant (Brechtür, Khinasi), Mounted Archery (Khinasi, Elf), Northerner (Rjurik, Vos), Plainsrider (Khinasi), Seafarer (Brechtür, Khinasi), Spirited Charge (Anuire), Two Weapon Defense (Brechtür)
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    I remember there begin a counter on how many times a faild atemt had been maid on a rule provience, and thet counter would be added on the next roll.

    I could also think of this as a asist check, where you wount increas the counter unless you roll a natural 10 or higer on your roll but still fail.

    not sure. this has perhaps been droped becous of to much book keeping.

    but then there could be a rule stating thet if the land chanses hands this bonus would be droped.

    or if some other harmfull evenst would hapen, as a volcanic eruption, an invation, pirate attack, or some large unbalance taking away any efort maid so far.

    lowering the prov lv would ofcours reset the counter.

    or what ever is the most siple.

    then elves would not need to be master administrators in order to be able to rule up proviances.

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    Raesene Andu schrieb:

    > This post was generated by the Birthright.net message forum.

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    > Raesene Andu wrote:

    >...

    > As for what races can get what feats, the BRCS has a small section on regional feats that

    are tied to a particular region or race. Master Administrator wasn`t

    one of these, although

    I`d consider changing that if enough people thought it necessary.

    Elves are already restricted

    from a lot of feats though (assuming you use the region feat rules).

    > Regional feats: Conqueror (Anuire, Vos), Discipline (Anuire, Dwarf), Dwarven Artisan (Dwarf),

    Elven Artisan (Elf), Forestdweller (Rjurik, Elf), Hardiness (Rjurik,

    Vos, Dwarf), Highlander

    (Rjurik, Vos), Inscribe War Tattoo (Vos), Master Diplomat (Anuire,

    Brechtür, Khinasi), Master

    Merchant (Brechtür, Khinasi), Mounted Archery (Khinasi, Elf), Northerner

    (Rjurik, Vos),

    Plainsrider (Khinasi), Seafarer (Brechtür, Khinasi), Spirited Charge

    (Anuire), Two Weapon

    Defense (Brechtür)



    I always wondered why Elves should have access to mounted archery. For

    example in The Iron Throne is is stated several times that sidhelien can

    pass through forests on foot as fast as mounted, so they would have no

    need of horses (at least those in Tuarhievel).

    And they face the problem to feed large numbers of horses for whole

    mounted units when they don´t work the land and plant oats. Are there so

    many places to graze n ancient forests as compared to the plains of Khinasi?

    bye

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    I see Mounted Archery being open to the Sidhelien in the sense that they can let arrows loose on horseback as easilly as if they had their feet on the ground - or on top of a small tree-top balkony, for that...

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    ----- Original Message -----

    From: "Michael Romes" <Archmage@T-ONLINE.DE>

    Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:53 AM



    > I always wondered why Elves should have access to mounted archery.

    > For example in The Iron Throne is is stated several times that sidhelien

    > can pass through forests on foot as fast as mounted, so they would have

    > no need of horses (at least those in Tuarhievel).



    I don`t think the elven mounts are neccesarily horses as human might ride.

    There are stories of the fey which involve horses which appear to be

    fey-touched or otherwise fey themselves. Such sidhe mounts might be adapted

    to eating leaves or nuts rather than grasses, and capable therby (like deer

    or swine) of restoring their forest soils with their manure. Its also

    possible that such creatures would have other fey attributes. Fey stories

    often involve human-animal bonding by means of fey magic. Given the

    Arthurian influence on paladins, its quite possible that the paladin`s mount

    has some of this quality as well. Perhaps the sidhe make a call and horses

    from nearby grasslands answer the call. The possibilities here are

    consisderable.



    Kenneth Gauck

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    Kenneth Gauck writes:



    > Given the Arthurian influence on paladins, its quite possible

    > that the paladin`s mount has some of this quality as well.

    > Perhaps the sidhe make a call and horses from nearby grasslands

    > answer the call. The possibilities here are consisderable.



    It would have some parity with the new, 3.5 version of the paladin if the

    mounts that elves ride are summoned, magical creatures rather than mundane

    animals. Personally, I find that explanation more plausible for BR elves

    than for typical paladin`s for whom the summoned mount thing is a bit goofy.



    Gary

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    "Goofy"? :lol: Well, the idea of making the mount a summoned creature really has two valid points:

    • The fact a paladin does not lose XP when the mount is killed (many would argue that a killed animal companion does not cost XP to its humane companion).
    • I find it more proper "calling" for a magical beast to become your faithful special mount than searching for the most appropriate and suitable animal to you in stables all around. :blink:

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    RaspK_FOG writes:



    > This post was generated by the Birthright.net message forum.

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    > RaspK_FOG wrote:

    > "Goofy"? :lol: Well, the idea of making the mount a summoned creature really has two valid points:

    >

    >
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    • The fact a paladin does not lose XP when the mount is killed (many would argue that a killed animal companion does not cost XP to its humane companion).

      >
    • I find it more proper "calling" for a magical beast to become your faithful special mount than searching for the most appropriate and suitable animal to you in stables all around. :blink:

      >




    Well, I grant you that it does have a kind of "Hi-ho, Silver! Away!" kind

    of vibe... Personally, I find it a bit silly, though. A summoned mount

    that vanishes (is there a little cartoonish "poof!" to accompany that

    disappearance) strikes me as much less proper than searching for a suitable

    animal. Asidefromwhich, I`ve had much fun playing out the quests/deeds that

    paladins had to accomplish in order to earn their mount.



    One of the players in my group pointed out that the rules describing the

    mount`s disappearance and reappeance with all equipment could wind up making

    the paladin`s warhorse a sort of transdimentional pack animal of great

    capacity. Load the thing up as much treasure as one likes, send it off to

    where ever it comes from, ride to town on a light, unencumbered horse,

    summon paladin`s warhorse, unload. That`s a rather goofy byproduct of the

    new version of the mount....



    Gary

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    I have to agree that some of the quests would become very interesting. What you really are most correct about is the goofiness of it being summoned in the first place, but whatever...

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    a paladin may magically call her mount from the celestial realms in which it resides.

    sould it not have the teplet &#39;celestial&#39; &#33;&#33; And be unable to be summond, for there is no acsess to the celestial realms from Birthrigth. &#33;&#33;



    I do play a paladin in Birthrigth.

    As I play it:
    my mount will not apear until 1d4*10 min afther I call it. and it comse running. but if Im fx by a river, it migth be on the other side, or some inconviniences like thet.

    But my mount has a nother ability, thet is it senses when the need is the most. and will be on the rigth side of the river, only few rounds away.

    Im a paladin of Cuiraécen. And I figurde thet My mout was chosen for my by the stormlord.

    So I went asking my DM

    - whad kind of horses rome the Feasthalls hill ?

    Cuiraécen (Cuiraécen’s Feasthall): Cuiraécen’s realm is a
    gigantic hall that sits atop of a steep sided hill, surrounded by
    storm clouds. Here great warriors celebrate their success in
    battle and forever recount the great events of their lives. The
    hall is home to a continuous feast where warriors may forever
    enjoy the spoils of the victory.
    h34r:

    ________________variant__________________________

    Or perhaps the spesial mount was Reincarnated spirit from the Feasthalls brougth here to aid the paladin as a mount.

    It will be funny, when the horse is telling the paladin talse of his past life as a fearsom warrior, Then the Mount can acsuly have lodse of usefull knowledge readily awailable to the paladin, if he is willing to tell. it can also lead to fearsome arguments about what is good and what is not. and the horse migth even refuse to do what would lead the paladin to act agenst his god.

    ...

    h34r:

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