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    I belive there has been some discussion on this topic before, could somone be so kind to post the link of thet descussion here in htis tread.

    Im thinking of the vampire templet. and the half celestial templet. ... well acsuly all the templets. ..


    way is it bad to have the blooded using the blooded templet.

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    Try these threads (currently on page 3 of the BRCS forum):

    Bloodline Abilities
    Game balance for Scions

    Chapter 2 - Blood Score Proposals

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    coulnt open page 3, streange...

    and the Search engen bugs me..

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    Try extending the amount of time at the bottom of the forum page. The default shows things from "the last 30 days." Extend it to 60 or more, and you'll be able to look further back.

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    Originally posted by teloft@Oct 23 2003, 09:23 PM
    way is it bad to have the blooded using the blooded templet.
    The discussion is been made more than once. I prefer the template version to, and Irdeggmans "Scion class" is like those monster classes presented in the "Savage Species" book. If you want, you can see it a bit like a template...
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    what is wrong with calling it a templet?

    you can gain templets and luse them, as with blood.

    you can increas your HD by templets, and even lose HD's

    you can gain Spell like abilitys, EX, Spells, Sp.. and anything.. lol

    it will usualy increas your CR, and efective Level in order to count Xp. as Blood works.

    in what sence dos it NOT work for blooded characters to have it a templet?

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    Originally posted by teloft@Oct 28 2003, 07:03 AM
    what is wrong with calling it a templet?

    you can gain templets and luse them, as with blood.

    you can increas your HD by templets, and even lose HD's

    you can gain Spell like abilitys, EX, Spells, Sp.. and anything.. lol

    it will usualy increas your CR, and efective Level in order to count Xp. as Blood works.

    in what sence dos it NOT work for blooded characters to have it a templet?

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    The absolute biggest problem is trying to start a 1st level campaign with +1 (or more) ECL templates. That was why we were leaning towards the scion class. Based on the Savage Species format it allows an ECL'd character to play along side 1st level characters.

    If a DM allows one player to play an ECL +2 character (effective level 3) and says that another can only play a 1st level one then this is blatently unfair to the players. Using scion class levels helps to balance this out. By including class benefits like HD, BAB, etc with each scion class level then things have a better balance.
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    I dont realy like the idee of 'the scion class' as it gose into the class system.

    ... whell what Im thinking rigth now..

    this is revolusinary to the howl blood system, and sould be thown away as fast as possible, but Ill post it anyway

    to have a skill asosiaded with the templet, like with the were-'whatever' tay need there controle shape skill in order to controle there shape chansing ability.

    so this skill is how good you are in applying your blood in your daily life. giving you acsess to more frequent use of your abilitys as you learn more about them and your selfe.

    the skills:
    Manifest blood ability (Wis) (only for blooded ones)
    KNOWLEDGE (INT; TRAINED ONLY) (of blood) (+2 synerg on manifest blood ab)
    CONCENTRATION (CON) (+2 synergy on manifest blood ab)

    and then

    PERFORM (CHA) for some of the abilitys

    __________________________________________________ ______

    Now Im thinking to have each of the major blood abilitys as semi templet.

    So you only gain + ECL by begin able to manifest your abilitys frequently, and if you have some more permanet and powerfull abilitys.

    I like to think of blood as temlet becous it can be lost easely if one is not cerfull, and also gaind if you are not cerfull in your killing of others.

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    Edit:

    I would add one max skill to blooded characters.
    or (lv+3) of skillpoints. For the need of more skilles as you are blooded.

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    the way that i am running mine is a little different i guess then eh,lol.
    i am making the base ability to have it as a feat that you have to start out with.with that feat you gain a template of tainted blood strength,which gives you 1 bloodline point,your choice of deriviation.once you reach a certain amount of bloodline points you gain a template automatically which allows you to access higher level bloodline abilties for the templates raise your bloodline strength category.and i have a few different prestige classes that raise your amount bloodline points as well.of course you can always raise your amount of bloodline points through the usual means of slaying another blooded being or through using regency points.what do you think of this system?if anyone likes it or dislikes it please let me know.once i have a webpage built up i will elaborate on it there or maybe i will do so in the other forum here where i am starting to detail my deity project.hope to hear from you all soon
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    ----- Original Message -----

    From: "irdeggman" <brnetboard@BIRTHRIGHT.NET>

    Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 6:52 AM





    > The absolute biggest problem is trying to start a 1st level

    > campaign with +1 (or more) ECL templates.

    >

    > If a DM allows one player to play an ECL +2 character (effective

    > level 3) and says that another can only play a 1st level one then this

    > is blatently unfair to the players.



    How is this unfair? Why would a DM say another player can only play a 1st

    level character? What is preventing everyone from being blooded? Why isn`t

    ECL self-balancing? I don`t see a problem.



    Kenneth Gauck

    kgauck@mchsi.com

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