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10-20-2003, 10:35 AM #1
This is more of a post for the GM's amongst us, but players please feel free too comment!
Ive been running my campaign since 97 and my players still cant get enough of it....
My players demand a certain level of realism and accountability from myself, which is something i encourage, my NPC regents never draw from inexhuastible resources/troops in times of war and if questioned i have evidence to prove my figures.
But to my question:
How do you feel the Gorgon feeds his mighty armies in times of peace? Obvously when war has commenced the forces subsist on the lands they conquer.... But how do you think he builds the numbers and feeds the numbers required for a military campaign???
Current Gorgon empire: Gorgons Crown, Mur-kilad, Markazor and Kiergard!
I have my own opinions but id be very interested in hearing yours.
Thanks
The ChamberlainThe Anuirean Empire will rise again........
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10-20-2003, 03:07 PM #2
I have always portrayed Kiergard as the primary breadbasket of the
Gorgon.
Cheers
Bjørn
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This is more of a post for the GM's amongst us, but players please
feel free too comment!Ive been running my campaign since 97 and my
players still cant get enough of it.... <img
src=`http://www.birthright.net/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif`
border=`0` style=`vertical-align:middle` alt=`biggrin.gif`> My players
demand a certain level of realism and accountability from myself, which
is something i encourage, my NPC regents never draw from inexhuastible
resources/troops in times of war and if questioned i have evidence to
prove my figures.But to my question:How do you feel the Gorgon feeds his
mighty armies in times of peace? Obvously when war has commenced the
forces subsist on the lands they conquer.... But how do you think he
builds the numbers and feeds the numbers required for a military
campaign???Current Gorgon empire: Gorgons Crown, Mur-kilad, Markazor and
Kiergard!I have my own opinions but id be very interested in hearing
yours.ThanksThe Chamberlain
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10-20-2003, 03:19 PM #3
I'd say Kiergard as well. Kiergard has a resonably large population and most are slaves that work the fields and fish along the coast, all under the eye of the Gorgon's sevants. The description for Kiergard even mentions this, in the section on guilds, saying that all the food produced is shipped from Daum into Fellport, the Gorgon's second largest city. From there it would be distributed to the rest of the Gorgon's holdings.
The Gorgon has only controlled Kiergard for the past 200 years, so I imagine that before then the long standing orog, goblin, and gnoll tribes inside the Stone Crown mountain range would undoubtably have resources of their own to keep their villages and towns running. After all, if the dwarves can keep themselves alive in the mountains of Baruk-Azik, then I imagine that the orogs of the crown have similar methods. Most of the food taken from Kiergard today would probably go to feed the Gorgon's armies and to the major cities of Kal-Saitharak and Fellport. If you note that the Gorgon has no guild holdings inside the Gorgon's Crown itself, so I would assume that food comes from Kiergard and weapons and armour are bought it by caravan from Mur-Kilad, but nothing goes in the other direction except soldiers and armies.Let me claim your Birthright!!
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10-20-2003, 03:35 PM #4
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TheChamberlain schrieb:
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> TheChamberlain wrote:
> This is more of a post for the GM's amongst us, but players please feel free too
comment!Ive been running my campaign since 97 and my players still
cant get enough of it....
My players demand a certain level of realism and accountability from
myself, which is something i
encourage, my NPC regents never draw from inexhuastible
resources/troops in times of war and if
questioned i have evidence to prove my figures.But to my question:How
do you feel the Gorgon feeds
his mighty armies in times of peace? Obvously when war has commenced
the forces subsist on the
lands they conquer.... But how do you think he builds the numbers and
feeds the numbers required
for a military campaign???Current Gorgon empire: Gorgons Crown,
Mur-kilad, Markazor and
Kiergard!I have my own opinions but id be very interested in
hearing yours.ThanksThe Chamberlain
Pillaging and foraging in the enemys lands during war, raiding the
neighbouring province even in "peace" times. Carrying supply/food from
Kiergards fields to the barren lands of Markazor...
However following the texts in some of the books it sounded as if the
Gorgon is NOT able to feed all his troops and that his troops constantly
grow - just as if he has no need to muster goblins but that the goblins
all serve only him and they reproduce in a speed that gives him
additional units even when he has no need of them. And to get rid of
"excess" units which would starve or turn against their own he stages a
major war from time to time.
bye
Michael
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10-20-2003, 06:09 PM #5Pillaging and foraging in the enemys lands during war, raiding the
neighbouring province even in "peace" times. Carrying supply/food from
Kiergards fields to the barren lands of Markazor...
However following the texts in some of the books it sounded as if the
Gorgon is NOT able to feed all his troops and that his troops constantly
grow - just as if he has no need to muster goblins but that the goblins
all serve only him and they reproduce in a speed that gives him
additional units even when he has no need of them. And to get rid of
"excess" units which would starve or turn against their own he stages a
major war from time to time.
bye
Michael
As for his standing armies, which would include the more professional forces like orog infantry & pikemen, Stonecrown Ogres, elite goblin guards, gnoll infantry, etc., I think he taxes the hell out of his own and his vassals' lands. Markazor, Mur-Kilad, and Kiergaard would all be taxed to the max!
Plus, I think he'd require the vassal states to provide troops of a certain quantity and quality during times of war - Brechts, dwarves (engineers, infantry, crossbowmen), and goblins would be called up from each state, in addition to the troops he keeps raised in the Crown.
That's how I'd imagine he'd get his numbers up to really epic numbers when he goes a-ravaging the lowlands of Anuire...it's how (as a DM) I justified a much larger army than Ruins of Empire suggested, and that was necessary to really threaten the combined forces of Anuirean regents who marched forth to face him. Because as much as the Anuirean regents bicker, fight, scheme, backstab, etc., there's one enemy who scares them more than any other: the Gorgon.
It's always been said that a grave outside threat is the greatest impetus toward creating a united front in opposition to that front.
-Osprey
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