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    Originally posted by Eosin the Red@Oct 12 2003, 12:45 AM
    Jaison Raenech, Male Human Ftr4/Rog3: HD 4d10 + 4 plus 3d6 + 3; hp 42; Init +6 (+2 dex, +4 Improved Inish); Move 30; AC 17 (+1 Chainshirt, + 2 Dex), touch 12, flat 15; BAB +6; Grap +8; Atk +13/+8 melee (1d8 + 8 Grandmark, long sword) SA evasion, sneak attack +2d6; AL LE; SV Fort +6, Ref +6, Will +3; Str 16, Dex 14, Con 13, Int 14, Wis 11, Cha 12, Bld 18
    Isn't it better to make Jaison Rog3/ Fighter4? Just for min-maxing

    My personal opinion is to make him Fighter 7 only or Fighter/ Prestige class (even Assassin would fit)...

    Maybe something like Fighter 6/ Assassin 1 or Fighter 5/ Assassin 2...

    Just an idea.
    May Khirdai always bless your sword and his lightning struck your enemies!

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    On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Ariadne wrote:

    > Isn`t it better to make Jaison Rog3/ Fighter4? Just for min-maxing ;)



    No. That`s never a good reason. If you`re designing anything based on

    min-maxing concerns, quit it.



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    Oh no, if you don`t min-max, the antagonists won`t fit into the CR system, and we`ll have a world of hurt :-)

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    > On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Ariadne wrote:

    > > Isn`t it better to make Jaison Rog3/ Fighter4? Just for min-maxing ;)

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    > No. That`s never a good reason. If you`re designing anything based on

    > min-maxing concerns, quit it.

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    On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Green Knight wrote:

    > Oh no, if you don`t min-max, the antagonists won`t fit into the CR

    > system, and we`ll have a world of hurt :-)



    Heh, if anyone is going through the Atlas like it`s a laundry list, they

    deserve any problems they get. "I have defeated Alamie, Avanil, and

    Boeruine, next alphabetically is Brosengae! Mount up!"



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    > Isn`t it better to make Jaison Rog3/ Fighter4? Just for min-maxing

    No. That`s never a good reason. If you`re designing anything based on
    min-maxing concerns, quit it.
    Hmm... not necessarily; I mean, I too don&#39;t think "min-maxing" is a good way to design characters (be they PCs or NPCs) - what I think is that the rules must represent what the character is in the game world.

    For example, if I&#39;m going to build "Sir Lancelot" I have to ensure that, by the rules, he is "invincible" in combat, because in the history he was&#33; If by the rules every fighter 10 manages to beat him, my build is wrong (unless he is Bernard Cornwell&#39;s Lancelot... :lol: ), as it would be wrong if he didn&#39;t have the proper skills and abilities.

    Just what I&#39;m saying is that sometimes a character has to be "strong" in the rules for his roleplay to be correct.

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    Originally posted by DanMcSorley@Oct 13 2003, 05:20 PM
    On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Green Knight wrote:

    > Oh no, if you don`t min-max, the antagonists won`t fit into the CR

    > system, and we`ll have a world of hurt :-)



    Heh, if anyone is going through the Atlas like it`s a laundry list, they

    deserve any problems they get. "I have defeated Alamie, Avanil, and

    Boeruine, next alphabetically is Brosengae&#33; Mount up&#33;"



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    Well, I don&#39;t min-max the realms I describe, I use the 2nd ED stats. So don&#39;t worry...
    May Khirdai always bless your sword and his lightning struck your enemies!

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