Going against the group.

[NinjaCorps]

Yes, I am a ninja so they should be carefull around me, but the player tring to kill me did not know I was a ninja when he first decided to be against me.

Also, it is funny that he has said that he would but has not. This is strange becuase he is one of those PC's that is based on the story form of a chilvares knight. You would think that he would have fought me once he said he was to kill me, but he did not.

He reason for not killing me now is that he thinks we will need the whole group to survive this dungeon. Another things that is strange is that he says we will need everyone to survive, but our Cleric has been brought to the point right before death. The character I plan to kill knows that the Cleric must rest for 3 days, but he insists on pressing on.

He is also doing a few more unhonorable things, but they are hidden from all but me.

[Doyle]

Actually, I think it was your GM, not your character class that is being
alluded to as a wuss - mostly for allowing the situation to remain as it
is. I wonder a little about him (or her) as in your post just prior to
going into the game, you were praising the GM for allowing you to do
what you wanted and then in the one after the game, the GM is evil for
not letting you do as you wanted.

On other bits mentioned in the last few posts (shudder): any good
fighter knows the weakness of his enemy, and when the opportunity will
use flanking, surprise attacks, etc. and this is reflected in D&D by
bonuses to hit and damage. I don`t think we need lessons in anatomy,
but you might want to research armour in a quasi medieval period
(assuming that this is the timescale you GM is using).

IMC I do actually allow martial artists. They are very rare so as not
to disrupt the general flavour of Birthright, and though there may be
more than 60 throughout the whole of Cerilia and Aduria, they would
never be formed as a war unit because open field fighting is not what
that sort of skill is designed for.

It would be interesting to hear your GM or the other players give their
side to this.

Doyle

-----Original Message-----

NinjaCorps wrote:
Perhaps you do not understand what a ninja is. A ninja is an assassain
that is hated by most other people due to their skills in stealth. Just
like you they think that ninjas are unhonorable people becuase they do
not fight face to face. It is not that they are dishonorable or that
they are wusses. A ninja is smart enough to know a great weakness of an
enemy and exploit it.

You and the creators of D&D seem to have a problem with anything other
than face to face attacks. That is why sneak attack is so weak, becuase
of wusses that think they should be given as much chance to defend
themselves as posible.

You and the creators of D&D need to learn something about anatomy.

Note: I must assassainate two members of the group becuase they are
planing to kill me. One of them has told me he is, and the other is too
much of a follower to do anything else.(I said all of this in my last
post, I guess you did not read that part.)

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[Doyle]

And just a little note on this: The ninja class uses fear itself as a
weapon itself, fear causes hate - not their skills in stealth, otherwise
elves and rangers (or worse, an elfin ranger) would be just as feared.
Honour is more often why someone is killed, rather than how. The face
to face `call them out to honourable combat` is left for the tourney
field and paladins, every one else fights with the primary intention of
surviving at the end of the fight.

Doyle

-----Original Message-----

Perhaps you do not understand what a ninja is. A ninja is an assassain
that is hated by most other people due to their skills in stealth. Just
like you they think that ninjas are unhonorable people becuase they do
not fight face to face. <snip>

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[kgauck]

Permit me to regard with some suspicion the wisdom of someone who comes into
the BR forums and begins casting aspersions on the competence and
understanding of long time forum members.

I too will offer a bit of free advice. While you may go against the group
in your play sessions, you would be wise to regard yourself as a member of
the BR community and treat other members as fellows and companions.

Kenneth Gauck
kgauck@mchsi.com

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[Eosin the Red]

> I too will offer a bit of free advice. While you may go against the group in your play sessions, you would be wise to regard yourself as a member of the BR community and treat other members as fellows and companions.

A hard learned lesson - taught way to often around here :)

Eosin

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[Birthright-L]

> I am excited at the prospect of killing an enemy though, even if it is a good friend of mine. I hope it does not cause any problems in the group, it is not personal. With any luck I will be able to kill them in their sleep and make it seem as though I did not do it.(Even the players will not know what has happened. That is, if I am able to pull it off the way I want to.)

Not personal for who..the PC character you are killing (who I`m sure would
take it quite personally), or the player who spent time developing and
running the character you are about to off? I`ve played in numerous games
over a long period of time, and I`ve never met a) a player who wouldn`t
take PKilling personally, or B) a player who would make such a blatant
attempt at disrupting the game and the enjoyment of the other players be
kept in the group in question. Of course, different strokes for different
folks, but I`ve seen people ousted from groups they`ve been in a long time
for less...

Sean

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[DanMcSorley]

On Sat, 21 Jun 2003, Eosin the Red wrote:
> I wonder why they would be trying to do you in?

This has got to be a joke. This guy is the stereotype of every horror
story I`ve ever heard about immature players who want to play ninjas in
every game. "We`re going to be playing Twilight:2000" "Can I be a
ninja?" "We`re going to be playing Werewolf" "I`m a ninja-werewolf!"

In summary, just ignore him and he`ll go away.
--
Daniel McSorley

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[Mark_Aurel]

You should be kicked by the group simply for liking ninjas - talk about bad taste! If nothing else, at least they could mock and ridicule you a bit. One thing that is NOT fun is being killed by another player - that sort of goes against "the rules," you know.

This webpage may serve your ninja interests better than birthright.net could:

http://www.realultimatepower.net/

[Eosin the Red]

You know, I thought about posting that link. You snooze, you loose.

Eosin

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> Mark_Aurel wrote:
> You should be kicked by the group simply for liking ninjas - talk about
bad taste! If nothing else, at least they could mock and ridicule you a bit.
One thing that is NOT fun is being killed by another player - that sort of
goes against "the rules," you know.
>
> This webpage may serve your ninja interests better than birthright.net
could:
>
> http://www.realultimatepower.net/
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[Green Knight]

Funny,

but there is actually more crap than stuff on the list at the
moment...one weekend, 100+ messages, and loads of crap, crap, and utter
crap.

Please? Anyone?

B

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Subject: Re: Going against the group. [10#1748]

You know, I thought about posting that link. You snooze, you loose.

Eosin

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> This post was generated by the Birthright.net message forum.
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> Mark_Aurel wrote:
> You should be kicked by the group simply for liking ninjas - talk
about
bad taste! If nothing else, at least they could mock and ridicule you a
bit.
One thing that is NOT fun is being killed by another player - that sort
of
goes against "the rules," you know.
>
> This webpage may serve your ninja interests better than birthright.net
could:
>
> http://www.realultimatepower.net/
>
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