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    i am looking for some ideas for knightly orders both religious and non. any info would be stupendious([_]

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "marcum uth mather" <brnetboard@BIRTHRIGHT.NET>
    Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:12 PM


    > i am looking for some ideas for knightly orders both religious and non.
    > any info would be stupendious([_]

    Its a big topic, books are written on the subject. Can you narrow it down?
    I use knightly orders myself. They make great organizations.

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    Knights of the North (LN)
    Colours: White and red
    Insignia: Wolf’s head
    Words: We Do Not Yield
    History: The Knights of the North were officially founded in 898
    HC to combat the growing number of monsters and Rjurik raids that had
    begun to plagued Dhoesone. As the power of the Empire declined further
    and further the people of this far and unimportant outpost had to look
    elsewhere for protection.

    Organisation: The order has varied in size over the years, but has
    never been very large or very rich. Between 100 and 300 knights and less
    than 1000 men at arms is all the order can afford. There is also the
    difficult task of finding enough able recruits in such a lightly
    populated land. Perhaps as a consequence of this you do not need to be
    rich nor noble to join. A quick wit, a strong arm and a will to fight is
    all that is required. Training will be provided as will all other things
    the knight might require. In return the order demands absolute obedience
    and a commitment for life. The order is very militant and apparently
    have little need for fancy titles or secret societies. The order closely
    mirrors Anuirean military organisation with the commander holding the
    rank of Knight-Commander of the North.

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    Iron Guard (LE)
    Colours: Grey and rust
    Insignia: Steel gauntlet
    Words: Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken
    History: The Iron Guard is a relatively young order, but one with
    ancient roots. In 267 HC the Duke of Ghieste, part of what today is
    known as Ghoere took it upon himself to create a formidable fighting
    force like that of the Knights of Haelyn, but without any ties to any
    church or religion. At this point in history the knight was just coming
    into his right and was easily the dominant force on the battlefield.
    Every noble regent would eventually create their own force of heavy
    horse, but the Duke Ghieste was the first and must successful. His Iron
    Guard became legend for their fierceness, courage and ability to emerge
    victorious over apparently superior forces. During the 6th century HC
    much of the steam had left the order. They had become corrupt, soft and
    after siding with the wrong part in a short struggle for the throne fell
    into obscurity and was lost to history. Then, during the Century of War
    a mercenary company appeared that closely matched the Iron Guard in both
    appearance and philosophy. Their fees were high but wherever they went
    victory was ensured. They fought on all sides and bowed before no
    master. But during the 13th century they again fell into obscurity. In
    1401 they appeared again, led by Orthiwen Tael, a man of unknown blood,
    they were instrumental in defeating the Pretender Warlord Rannech Oxyr.
    He was generously given land along the Maesil, close to Ghieste. Thus
    began the Tael Dynasty, and the Iron Guard has always been there to
    ensure victory.

    Organisation: Based on martial virtues not religious ones, the order
    holds skill at arms, leadership and statemanscraft above all. They
    believe strongly in the ideal Great Warrior, who by right of his might
    and the power of his armies takes what is rightfully his.

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    to the green knight, the first drink is on me([_]

    what i am looking foris whats posted above. info on orders from other campaings. were they are, what there goals are, average wealth..... all the stuff you would need to put them in a campain

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    I would recommend looking for the paladin's handbook from the 2nd edition. If I remember right it has several orders of knights that could be easily adapted.
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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Lawgiver" <brnetboard@BIRTHRIGHT.NET>
    Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:13 PM


    > I would recommend looking for the paladin`s handbook from the 2nd
    > edition. If I remember right it has several orders of knights that could
    be
    > easily adapted.

    I wouldn`t go back to 2e when there such good sources as Avalanche`s _Noble
    Knights_ available.

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    Just trying to save the guy a buck or two on resources. If all you want is concepts and ideas, why spend $17 on a new book when you can spend < $5 on a 2nd edition book. Of course you could always post a thread on a message board and get some suggestions for free. ;)
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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "marcum uth mather" <brnetboard@BIRTHRIGHT.NET>
    Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 12:04 PM

    > what i am looking foris whats posted above. info on orders
    > from other campaings. were they are, what there goals are,
    > average wealth..... all the stuff you would need to put them in
    > a campain

    The Military Order of Strathcarron of the Sword (aka the Knights of
    Strathcarron)
    Grand Master Gavin Deadwater
    http://home.mchsi.com/~kgauck/taelshore/gavin.htm
    * Organization: Egalitarian, Cohesive, Grandmaster
    The Knights of Strathcarron have a Grandmaster, who acts as captain of the
    knights unit which this unit can form. The Grandmaster is traditionally
    selected from the upper nobility of Talinie. The current Grandmaster is the
    brother of the Earl of Lindhoime. The knights also have four lieutenant
    knights. The rest are knights. The Knights of Strathcarron are collegial,
    egalitarian, and are devoted to the cause of defending Talinie from the
    goblins of neighboring countries. Knights too old to fight are known as
    knights-elders, and advise the order. Knights-elders must pay dues, but are
    not required to maintain armor, weapons, and horse. Recruits to the order
    too young to fight are squires, and are assigned to a knight who supports
    and trains the squire in the traditional fashion.
    * Domain organization: 1 law holding Freestead and one in Serimist, free
    muster of one knight unit based on the membership of the order.
    * Income: The law holdings provides 1GB of income in the fall of each year.
    Dues provide another source of income. The wealth of the members of the
    order provide for all of the upkeep of the member`s. Members not able to
    maintain the equipage of a knight are suspended. Members must support
    themselves and pay dues.
    * Activities: During war, the order forms a knight unit at the expence of
    its members to defend Talinie. During peace it performs several functions.
    The Knights of Strathcarran provides training for its members, assigns
    mentors to young squires, and maintains intelligence on the activities of
    the neighboring goblins, mostly in terms of their military power and
    political will to attack Talinie. The order has several times in its history
    assigned quests.
    * Domain Activites: Once per season the Order attempts an Espionage action
    against both the Five Peaks and Thurazor. Its remaining action varies. The
    order would attempt to fill any vacant holding slots in law or guild to
    extend its control in Lindholme, Serimist, Winter`s Deep, or Freestead. The
    Order does engage in building activities to facilitate heavy cavalry
    operations against the goblin realms. This has included stables in the four
    border provinces, some stone bridges, roadbuilding, and establishing
    blacksmiths, grooms, and farriers at their stables. The order has stables
    and facilities at Newcayne, Strathcarron, Clashness, and Culkien. Knights
    with estates on the border often have enlarged stables, capable of
    supporting 50 or more horses if neccesary.
    * Membership: To join, a human must swear an oath to protect Talinie against
    all Goblin incursion; be able to support himself in knightly arms, armor,
    and horse; as well as pay dues. Novices are required to serve the order for
    six months, serving as squires, grooms, and servants to the order. These
    modest duties can be dispensed of by cash payment of 1000 gp. Those
    prospective members who are not yet knighted, but expect to become so (young
    nobles) are taken on as squires and assigned a mentor knight. Members are
    freely allowed to undertake other obligations that don`t conflict with the
    order. Dues are 500 gp per year. Typically there are 40-60 full members,
    20 squires, and one or two dozen knights-elders.
    * Special: The members of the Order are able to take the Hated Foe
    (Goblinoids) feat.
    * Politics: The Knights of Strathcarron takes no interest in politics and
    will lend its holdings to the Thane as requested. The Order opposes any
    softening of the stance against either Thurazor or the Five Peaks.

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