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02-10-2003, 01:46 AM #1
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Hello All,
I'm wondering if ayone can throw me a bone or two regarding a neato-keen way of getting the Book of Days *OUT* of the College of Astronomy (or College of Sorcery as it may be) without it being noticed immedaitely. I figure the wizzies would have it warded up the ying-yang.
I thought about using a halfling & their shadow walk ability as I did in CoGII, but that seems a bit too obvious (though easily convienient.) Anyone have some more mundane ideas? Ultimately, I think the way to defeat the wards is to use the mundane methods. Wizards expect spell craft to be used to undo their own protections I should think.
Anyone have any ideas for this?
Thanks muchly!
Morg"You need people of intelligence on this mission... quest... thing."
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02-10-2003, 11:07 AM #2
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> morgramen wrote:
> Hello All,
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>I`m wondering if ayone can throw me a bone or two regarding a neato-keen way of getting the Book of Days *OUT* of the College of Astronomy (or College of Sorcery as it may be) without it being noticed immedaitely. I figure the wizzies would have it warded up the ying-yang.
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>I thought about using a halfling & their shadow walk ability as I did in CoGII, but that seems a bit too obvious (though easily convienient.) Anyone have some more mundane ideas? Ultimately, I think the way to defeat the wards is to use the mundane methods. Wizards expect spell craft to be used to undo their own protections I should think.
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>Anyone have any ideas for this?
>Thanks muchly!
>Morg
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Such an important book is certainly not guarded by magic alone. Guards
are certainly routinely checking as well, and most likely also a priest
of Haelyn has put a Glyph of Warding.
If you remember Topkapi (where some thiefs broke into the turkish museum
and stole a valuable dagger which they exchanged against a copy) you´ll
need a way which is not blocked (upper windows, not door?), preparation
(at what times does the guard check the room with the book?),
distraction (a small boy throws a stone into the windows of the building
seting off the alarm spell - but it is wrong alarm and the wizard who´s
duty it is to renew the spell comes not before 8.00 in the next morning).
A very good Rogue who is able to disable magic traps could with that be
able to get the book. However it´s loss would be noticed within the next
guard check - he would have to leave a copy. And not only a simple copy
but one at least with Nystul´s Magical Aura on it.
If the Rogue manages to steal the book without being noticed, a copy
with false magical aura certainly would not be noticed immediately. The
magical aura lasts 1day /level of the caster, so you need a spellcaster
with high level or extend spell to avoid notice.
Mmmh?
bye
Michael Romes
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02-11-2003, 01:25 AM #3
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> morgramen wrote:
> Hello All,
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> I`m wondering if ayone can throw me a bone or two regarding a neato-keen way of getting the Book of Days *OUT* of the College of Astronomy (or College of Sorcery as it may be) without it being noticed immedaitely. I figure the wizzies would have it warded up the ying-yang.
How about something like this:
Stealing The Book of Days:
Here is the non-magical way I might try to get it. First, it would require patience. Hire on as a servant. Work your way into a position of some trust, something like head maintenance. Spend time in the room with the BoD. Let the keepers become familiar with you. Carefully engineer a problem with the room – could be water leakage, vermin, or mold.
The room will need to be cleared to avoid damage to the irreplaceable items. When the items are brought back into the now fixed room, our handy dandy rogue replaces the book with a look alike. He put the original in a concealed carrier (false bottom) and has it removed from the facility by a stooge.
If need be, our thief can replace guards and other laborers with accomplices on the day of the heist. The place will be very busy and no one will have time to check out why Terrik the day guard came down with dysentery. With luck the thieves should have 6-10 hours head start and the college will not know who they are looking for. The infiltrator should remain in place for 2-4 days and then disappear. To execute this correctly, it would take 2-5 years but when the carrot is big enough to feed you for the rest of your life that is pocket change.
Reasoning behind why it would work – nothing can be permanently warded. People have to move the book around, clean it, and do general maintenance in the area around it. It is very unlikely that the wizards perform these tasks themselves. People tend to keep the most valuable possessions together, so replacing one book in a stack of many is not likely to be obvious. It will not be until much later when the books are put back into place that things will become suspicious. This is a very real type of problem that frequently occurs and requires extensive manpower to repair. The wizards and librarians are going to be on high alert for poachers who will still valuable but non-obvious items like curios and golden knobs. Our thief might even arrange for 1 or 2 of those to be caught red handed, providing even more distraction.
IMO - the few wizards in BR do not go around warding everything, there are not buzzers at the door if you try to leave with a book that has not been checked out, and they do not have the ability to summon things back into place. This should be a tricky - but largely non-magical theft. Keeping yourself for being found by said wizards after the fact is likely to be the hardest part. Many of them can scry on the book or use other forms of divination to figure out its location.
HTH,
Eosin
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02-11-2003, 08:51 AM #4
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Eosin the Red wrote:
>> morgramen wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>>I`m wondering if ayone can throw me a bone or two regarding a neato-keen way of getting the Book of Days *OUT* of the College of Astronomy (or College of Sorcery as it may be) without it being noticed immedaitely. I figure the wizzies would have it warded up the ying-yang.
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>IMO - the few wizards in BR do not go around warding everything, there are not buzzers at the door if you try to leave with a book that has not been checked out, and they do not have the ability to summon things back into place. This should be a tricky - but largely non-magical theft. Keeping yourself for being found by said wizards after the fact is likely to be the hardest part. Many of them can scry on the book or use other forms of divination to figure out its location.
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In the DMG a leadlined door is described for dungeons (p. 109) to
providing barrier against detection spells. Perhaps put the book in a
leaded chest?
bye
Michael Romes
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