BR 3rd edition

[Shade]

Raesene,

Thanks much for your suggestions about campaign progress.

Is it possible to join the BR d20 team? I am very interested in the growth
and development of our favorite setting, and would like to be a part if
your team is willing to take on more help.

I can send you some homebrew stuff I`ve developed to give you an idea of my
writing and creative skills. I`ve also made minor contributions to the
Online City Project (that was a few years back) and BR.net.

[Count Demeter]

It must be a little harsh, but here we are in February and the first draft of BRCS D20 is not yet released.

Is there some problem? Can I be of help?

[Gannd]

It`s just Monday give them until at least Saturday. :)

Ken Johnson
Associate Editor, IGN Vault Network
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Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: BR 3rd edition [2#1247]


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> Count Demeter wrote:
> It must be a little harsh, but here we are in February and the first
draft of BRCS D20 is not yet released.
>
> Is there some problem? Can I be of help?
>
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On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Count Demeter wrote:
> It must be a little harsh, but here we are in February and the first
> draft of BRCS D20 is not yet released.

There was a post here within the last couple of days identifying the 2/8
as their target date.
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[spehar]

Count Demeter,
Since you're getting a free product that's, by my last copy, 187 pages long, from devoted, knowledgable members of the Birthright community who have devoted their own time to a product which they won't be getting compensated for; it's my suggestion you wait, and thank those who gave a minute of their time to produce what is simply outstanding work. You're not going to like everything you see, but it's simply one the best D&D related products I have ever seen, and well worth the wait.

And if you don't like it, write your own. Don't be harsh, just be respectful and eagerly anxious. ([_]

Mike Spehar

[Birthright-L]

On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, spehar wrote:
> Since you`re getting a free product that`s, by my last copy, 187
> pages long, from devoted, knowledgable members of the Birthright
> community who have devoted their own time to a product which they
> won`t be getting compensated for; it`s my suggestion you wait, and
> thank those who gave a minute of their time to produce what is simply
> outstanding work. You`re not going to like everything you see, but
> it`s simply one the best D&D related products I have ever seen, and
> well worth the wait.
>
> And if you don`t like it, write your own. Don`t be harsh, just be
> respectful and eagerly anxious. ([_]

The people running this project kept claiming this is a community
product, so maybe you ought to stick to that party line instead of
expecting the community to `be respectful and eagerly anxious`. The
original poster made an innocent inquiry and got about the response I`ve
come to expect from this project: "Yep, we`re late, but we`re the team and
you`re not, so you should thank us."
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[spehar]

He wasn't making an innocent inquiry, assuming I'm reading his typo correctly.

This is a Birthright project. This is to make the Birthright world better. I don't give a rats @$$ who does what, but one thing I simply can't stand is someone I feel disrespecting someone else. That's the way I percieved it.

So if I took Counts line was out of context, for that I appologize, but let him tell me I did. If you have any further problems Daniel, please contact me directly and not the board. No brawling in front of anybody.

Mike

[Gannd]

I did not get that idea. I think the team is being very fair with us.


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Subject: Re: BR 3rd edition [2#1247]

On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, spehar wrote:
> Since you`re getting a free product that`s, by my last copy, 187
> pages long, from devoted, knowledgable members of the Birthright
> community who have devoted their own time to a product which they
> won`t be getting compensated for; it`s my suggestion you wait, and
> thank those who gave a minute of their time to produce what is simply
> outstanding work. You`re not going to like everything you see, but
> it`s simply one the best D&D related products I have ever seen, and
> well worth the wait.
>
> And if you don`t like it, write your own. Don`t be harsh, just be
> respectful and eagerly anxious. ([_]

The people running this project kept claiming this is a community
product, so maybe you ought to stick to that party line instead of
expecting the community to `be respectful and eagerly anxious`. The
original poster made an innocent inquiry and got about the response I`ve
come to expect from this project: "Yep, we`re late, but we`re the team
and
you`re not, so you should thank us."
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Daniel McSorley- mcsorley@cis.ohio-state.edu

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[Arjan]

give myself to this weekend aswell. :)
I am finishing up the manual with all the pretty things, but i have to do
this in the evenings after i get home from work. So i can only spend 2 hours
per evening on it.

And......you waited 2 years.......whats another week?? :)

So pleaze flame me all you can, i am the one holding it up now

([_]
Arjan

[Mark_Aurel]

The people running this project kept claiming this is a community
product, so maybe you ought to stick to that party line instead of
expecting the community to `be respectful and eagerly anxious`. The
original poster made an innocent inquiry and got about the response I`ve
come to expect from this project: "Yep, we`re late, but we`re the team and
you`re not, so you should thank us."
--
Communication is possible only between equals.
Daniel McSorley- mcsorley@cis.ohio-state.edu

Dear mr McSorley,

as far as I'm aware, the full text of the initial draft is finished - what remains is the task of making it look pretty - and, from what I've seen so far, it looks very pretty indeed - Arjan is doing a tremendous job on that aspect. As for the "lateness" of the project, keep in mind two things - 1) the scope of this, and the thoroughness of it; 2) it's a team effort, yes, but in any team, there are individuals responsible for delays - in this case, that would be me, and not so much the others, who have done impeccable jobs in terms of the schedule here. Point being - don't execute everyone for what I'm to blame for (holding things up).

I'm fairly certain you'll enjoy it one way or another. It could be the content, the graphics and pretty look, or it could just be the enjoyment of getting out the good ol' gasonline can and pouring it on.