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    I don`t how many BR players have ever played Kingmaker, the combination card
    and board game of the War of the Roses. Its a boat load of fun, and the
    computer version of same was pretty decent, as far as computer opponants can
    be competative. I mention this because Avalon Hill now has a link through
    Wizards, and a trip to the WoC web site to see what was new ended up with my
    reading strategy hints for using parliament in KM.

    In some ways, Anuire, and to a lessor extent all of Cerilia, operates like
    KM does. Players play noble factions, the throne is a pawn. Its not at all
    a stretch to play BR like KM, and that`s really about all you can do in PBeM
    games.

    In any event, clicking over to review strategy articles for KM and other war
    games might provide sparks and full blown ideas for BR DM`s.

    Kenneth Gauck
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    >
    > I don`t how many BR players have ever played Kingmaker, the
    > combination card and board game of the War of the Roses. Its
    > a boat load of fun, and the computer version of same was
    > pretty decent, as far as computer opponants can be
    > competative. I mention this because Avalon Hill now has a
    > link through Wizards, and a trip to the WoC web site to see
    > what was new ended up with my reading strategy hints for
    > using parliament in KM.
    >
    > In some ways, Anuire, and to a lessor extent all of Cerilia,
    > operates like KM does. Players play noble factions, the
    > throne is a pawn. Its not at all a stretch to play BR like
    > KM, and that`s really about all you can do in PBeM games.
    >
    > In any event, clicking over to review strategy articles for
    > KM and other war games might provide sparks and full blown
    > ideas for BR DM`s.
    >

    I don`t know if that game is abandonware, but I found it for download
    somewhere. It`s not bad, but I expected more from Avalon Hills. The
    distribution of lands and titles in the beginning is great, but the
    strategical movement and battles get boring after a time.

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Milos Rasic" <mrasic@TEHNICOM.NET>
    Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 6:13 PM


    > I don`t know if that game is abandonware, but I found it for download
    > somewhere. It`s not bad, but I expected more from Avalon Hills. The
    > distribution of lands and titles in the beginning is great, but the
    > strategical movement and battles get boring after a time.

    The heart of the game can`t be replicated on computer, it requires making
    deals and backstabbing your allies to put your own candidate on the throne.
    Without people behind the factions, its only a shadow of its former
    table-top version. The same is true of Machiavelli and Diplomacy.

    Kenneth Gauck
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    > > I don`t know if that game is abandonware, but I found it
    > for download
    > > somewhere. It`s not bad, but I expected more from Avalon Hills. The
    > > distribution of lands and titles in the beginning is great, but the
    > > strategical movement and battles get boring after a time.
    >
    > The heart of the game can`t be replicated on computer, it
    > requires making deals and backstabbing your allies to put
    > your own candidate on the throne. Without people behind the
    > factions, its only a shadow of its former table-top version.
    > The same is true of Machiavelli and Diplomacy.
    >
    >

    And the Gorgon`s Alliance as well.

    Machiavelli and Diplomacy both supported hotseat multiplayer game, so
    that way they managed to keep some of the flavor. I remember that my
    friends and I spend hours with my c-64 and diplomacy. It`s funny to
    remember that c-64 version had better graphics than PC version :-)

    BTW, does anyone want to play Gorgon`s Alliance online?

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    I prefer the boardgame of Kingmaker, even though it usually ends up bogging
    down about half way through, and doesn`t end for hours upon hours.

    Although, wouldn`t you love to see a Kingmaker variant for either Anuire,
    or for George R.R. Martin`s A Song of Ice and Fire?

    -Scott

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