General 4th BR discussion

[kgauck]

Pazio used to be a preferred vendor, especially as producers of Dragon and Dungeon, but with the loss of the magazines, Pazio decided to start competing with Wizards in its offerings. So, Wizards has decided to withdraw its product line of pdfs.

This could be exacerbated by relations between persons in both companies, by the production of the 3.6 product, or Pazio's commitment to other product lines.

[bbeau22]

I don't know much behind the story but it seems the fall out between the two companies was pretty harsh. I am really surprised. The Paizo adventure paths really helped our D&D group get back into fantasy D&D again after a long break.

[Rey]

Really a shame then. Got some BR stuff from them.

Maybe to lighten things up: Colin McComb Q&A. Ask Colin about Birthright (or some other settings, too) and he will answer.

[Vicente]

Originally Posted by kgauck

Pazio used to be a preferred vendor, especially as producers of Dragon and Dungeon, but with the loss of the magazines, Pazio decided to start competing with Wizards in its offerings. So, Wizards has decided to withdraw its product line of pdfs.

This could be exacerbated by relations between persons in both companies, by the production of the 3.6 product, or Pazio's commitment to other product lines.

Wizards have stated very clearly that retiring their PDFs from Paizo, RPGNow,... is because of piracy reasons.

[Rey]

Seems like a bad business decision, anyway. Reminds me of IBM. They don't really care or develop any new products, they just buy someone else's and ruin it completely. Move on to the next one. Repeat.

[kgauck]

I have seen pdfs for all kinds of publications pirated, even at the local game store (by regular customers, not the store itself), so I am not surprised.

[dundjinnmasta]

And a bunch of people are making fun of them for their freakish reaction and there was much rejoicing throughout the land. White Wolf was/is giving away Exalted 2nd Edition free on drivethrurpg.com to show their continued support to pdfs for a limited time. Paizo was/is offering a 35% discount on pdf products for a limited time.

[kgauck]

If we want to abandon books and go entirely pdf, that's fine, but if there is a market for books, giving away pdfs of the same material obviously undercuts the market for books.

[Thelandrin]

Well, if all the old WotC/TSR books are out of print, keeping the PDFs up for sale only generates extra profit - especially the BR PDFs. Withdrawing all PDFs everywhere is a knee-jerk reaction and just hurts, their pockets, old name recognition and fan goodwill.

[dundjinnmasta]

It is to bad that Wizards no longer selling pdfs of the old setting doesn't mean it has been abandoned and is fair-game for re-publication. Then we could take our Birthright pdfs and completely update them to our choosen games...