Cleric or Mage?

[Snowman 67]

I dont know why regents would want to be a cleric, because a mage has so many more advantages at higher levels. If you were a cleric/mage or somthing of the sort it's more understandable. A cleric is good when he is in a little party adventuring, but when it comes to domain spells, mage takes the cake.

[Gavin Cetaine]

Orginally posted by Snowman 67

I dont know why regents would want to be a cleric, because a mage has so many more advantages at higher levels. If you were a cleric/mage or somthing of the sort it's more understandable. A cleric is good when he is in a little party adventuring, but when it comes to domain spells, mage takes the cake.

I guess its really a matter of game-play style. Do you want to be know for seeing to the well being, spiritual and physical, of the people of the land? Or, would you prefer to be know as 'the crazy noble who keeps running of into the wilds'? But, here's a couple mechanics issues:

1) A wizard with a source still has to learn domain-level spells before s/he can use them. Yeah, there's a lot of cool spells, but you have to track down casters willing to let you learn them from them or spend time researching the spells on your own. A cleric simply takes over control of his church, prays about his/her new position, and gains the ability to prepare domain-level spells the next time s/he prepares spells. Not just a spell, but all the spells that the holding level would allow him/her to cast.

2) As a cleric, when a province level goes up, you get the chance to increase your holding size. As a wizard, you risk loosing a level of your source (guaranteed if you control all of the level 1 or greater sources). Since most non-mage regents want to increase domain size for the monetary benefits, wizards have to constantly worry about the province ruler's actions.


J

[ConjurerDragon]

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Orginally posted by Snowman 67
>I dont know why regents would want to be a cleric, because a mage has so many more advantages at higher levels. If you were a cleric/mage or somthing of the sort it`s more understandable. A cleric is good when he is in a little party adventuring, but when it comes to domain spells, mage takes the cake.
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>I guess its really a matter of game-play style. Do you want to be know for seeing to the well being, spiritual and physical, of the people of the land? Or, would you be preferred to be know as the crazy noble who keeps running of into the wilds? But, here`s a couple mechanics issues:
>1) A wizard with a source still has to learn domain-level spells before s/he can use them. Yeah, there`s a lot of cool spells, but you have to track down casters willing to let you learn them from them or spend time researching the spells on your own. A cleric simply takes over control of his church, prays about his/her new position, and gains the ability to prepare domain-level spells the next time s/he prepares spells. Not just a spell, but all the spells that the holding level would allow him/her to cast.
>2) As a cleric, when a province level goes up, you get the chance to increase your holding size. As a wizard, you risk loosing a level of your source (guaranteed if you control all of the level 1 or greater sources). Since most non-mage regents want to increase domain size for the monetary benefits, wizards have to constantly be worry about the province ruler`s actions.
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And don´t forget that wizards earn not a single GB from their sources -
they have either to beg others, or transmute RP into GB at a horrible
rate of 4:1
bye
Michael

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[Gavin Cetaine]

Orginally posted by ConjurerDragon
And don´t forget that wizards earn not a single GB from their sources -
they have either to beg others, or transmute RP into GB at a horrible
rate of 4:1


An excellent point. I believe that the RP to GB conversion only happens if the wizard can manage to get a hold of the 'Alchemy' spell.

J

[ConjurerDragon]

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Gavin Cetaine wrote:

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Orginally posted by ConjurerDragon
>And don´t forget that wizards earn not a single GB from their sources -
>they have either to beg others, or transmute RP into GB at a horrible
>rate of 4:1
>
>An excellent point. I believe that the RP to GB conversion only happens if the wizard can manage to get a hold of the `Alchemy` spell.
>
Or the Sidhelien Alchemy or Improved Alchemy Realmspells from
Birthright.Net and the old Birthright.Net.
However before being able to transmute lead into gold he has as always
to research one of these spells.
Unless he rules Baruk-Ahzik and can convert RP into GB at will as
written in the PS of Baruk-Ahzik - however a wizard regent of a dwarven
realm is highly unlikely :-)

In either case a wizard will always fall short compared to the resources
of other regents - someone who has to burn RP to gain GB will in the end
have less than a guild, temple or province regent who earns GB AND RP -
unless the wizard gains an ally/forces someone to tribute him gold/
becomes the court wizard of a regent and receives gold from such an
alternative way.

Ply Trade is not really a solution - even highlevel wizards can reap
only 1 or 2 GB from this action - even if thy ply their trade in a
highlevel province - and they "waste" a whole action/month doing so.
bye
Michael

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[Snowman 67]

I guess it all comes down to how people like to play. If you like massive power and arent affraid of ticking off your surroundings a mage would probably be a great thing. I am more of a fighter, berserker myself.