The Nature of Divinity in BR

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On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, John Machin wrote:
> I disagree.
> Mortals with bloodlines are powerful mortals. They are blessed by the
> gods, like Abraham was. However no-one thinks that Abraham WAS a god.
> Likewise, I cannot see how people could argue that even powerful scions
> are truly like unto gods.

Not Abraham. More like Hercules and Achilles, descendants of gods. Big,
bad, and semidivine. Hercules did ascend to Mount Olympus at his death,
taking a place in the constellations.
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On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, John Machin wrote:
> I disagree.
> Mortals with bloodlines are powerful mortals. They are blessed by the
> gods, like Abraham was. However no-one thinks that Abraham WAS a god.
> Likewise, I cannot see how people could argue that even powerful scions
> are truly like unto gods.

Not Abraham. More like Hercules and Achilles, descendants of gods. Big,
bad, and semidivine. Hercules did ascend to Mount Olympus at his death,
taking a place in the constellations.
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On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Gary wrote:
> I think it`s important that ascension is a mainstay of D&D, so
> deciding that it isn`t possible without divine assistance throws
> something of a monkey wrench in the characterization of those NPCs.
>
> I guess it might be one way to explain why none of them have actually
> transcended after 1,500 years of trying, though.... Still. I don`t think
> I`d exclude it as a possibility.

The awnsheghlien do kind of have divine assistance, in the form of Azrai`s
remnant, the Cold Rider. I think he`s getting them to do the grunt work
of gathering power up, so he can kill just a couple of major awnsheghlien
and get his power back, rather than having to hunt down every pissant
scion with a bloodline of Azrai, tainted, 3, to get his own back.

Does he really want them to become divine? I think it`s brinksmanship.
He knows how, and he has to grant them mostly accurate descriptions of the
process or else they`ll figure out he`s playing them. But he doesn`t want
them to ascend and surpass him, because then they might decide he looks
like a nummy snack. He`s very vulnerable right now.

> A (heretical) Biblical example might be that if Jesus had exploded on
> the cross, left a massive crater, and infused all those in attendance
> with divine power then we`re closer to the divinity of BR scions.

Hehe. I laughed. Guess we`ll all burn in hell together; somebody
remember to bring some dice. :)
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