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Lord Eldred
07-23-2002, 04:02 AM
Based on the discussion that I am participating in about unblooded regents, I am interested in how other people define or explain regency points.

Ariadne
07-23-2002, 10:15 AM
In my oppinion regency points are based on the common people's loyality. A regent or ruler of a domain must be acceptated by his people (thats why an uncrowned regent gets only half of his regency points, until he is invested by a priest of the state religion). Naturally regency points are linked to the realms/ domains size (more people, more regency points). If the regent fails an event, he can loose some of this loyality and in addition regency points...

This interpretation is based on one kit in the "book of regency", where an regent gets additional regency points, if he faces a danger of the domain and wins.

Lord Grave
07-23-2002, 10:33 AM
>
> Ariadne wrote:
> In my oppinion regency points are based on the common
> people`s loyality. A regent or ruler of a domain must be
> acceptated by his people (thats why an uncrowned regent gets
> only half of his regency points, until he is invested by a
> priest of the state religion). Naturally regency points are
> linked to the realms/ domains size (more people, more regency
> points). If the regent fails an event, he can loose some of
> this loyality and in addition regency points...
>
> This interpretation is based on one kit in the "book of
> regency" where an regent gets additional regency points, if
> he faces an danger of the domain and wins.

Still doesn`t explain the use of regency in realm spells. What kind of
loyalty does a Wizard gain from his Sources?

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soudhadies
07-23-2002, 10:41 AM
I don't think it has anything to do with loyalty. A realm's people may hate their regent but be too cowed (by law holdings etc) to revolt.

In my opinion regency is an aura of power (divine right, better than thou) that a regent aquires through his influence (holdings) and ability to use that influece (apropriate class to gain regency from those holdings). Spending regency is exerting this influence in a manner that mere mortals could not do.

Ariadne
07-23-2002, 03:04 PM
I haven't said, the people must love their ruler. I said, they must respect him. He can also get his respect through fear (as in Vosgaard).

kgauck
07-24-2002, 12:24 AM
RP reflect nothing so vulgar as the popular attitudes of the common people.
They have the loyalty index to measure their insensible states. No, sir.
Regency reflects the relative power of one lord compared to another, be he
temporal, spiritual, commerical, or magical. Every lord worthy of the name
commands some respect among his peers, those below him whether subordinate
or just inferior, and those who are superior to him.

Such relationships of respect and obligation, dependance and support, are
not left out in the wind to blow away, lost to the superior lord. They are
institutionalized and ritualized. The most obvious cases are the
requirement for the inferior to bow before the superior. This expression
many vary from place to place, but the need for the inferior man to ritually
display his inferiority is universal because it maintains the relative roles
of the two individuals. Who may speak first (or do anything first), who may
exit and how, how one is addressed, all of these reinforce the condition one
finds oneself in.

For the any lord the RP most clearly reflects the loyalty and obedience of
those who support the lord, fear the lord, or are obligated to the lord.
Oaths given and recieved are sacred,and infused with divine energy. Rituals
undertaken are sacred and infused with divine energy. To refuse to bow (or
salute) your superior is to offend the cosmos. Such hubris brings with it a
curse, generally expressed in a fall from possition. The accumulation of so
many oaths, rital gesteures, and instatutionalized submissions not only
directly reflect the order of the cosmos, but also impact the order. Just
as a lord grows confident by his inferiors show of obediance, so does the
show of obediance humble those who make it and those who witness it. The
lord maintains a court not just because he needs a place to hang out and
party with his cronies, but because he must display his power.

Victories, successes, the dominion of many, the sheer size of one`s reach,
the obedience of other powerful men, the fear of retribution, all of these
enhance the power of the lord. Such is the order of the cosmos, and can
only be flauted for a short time before the natural order will tumble you
from your false place.

Kenneth Gauck
kgauck@mchsi.com

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Azrai
07-24-2002, 10:15 AM
Keep in mind that Regency is closely connected to the "land". the source books point out that sometimes the land "chooses" the next heir. so, RP is something magical, a mystic thing. the question is then, how one can increase the RP. this is the point where loyality and other "worldly" stuff comes in. all this helps to let the mystical power grow.

Ariadne
07-29-2002, 10:21 AM
Orginally posted by kgauck

For the any lord the RP most clearly reflects the loyalty and obedience of those who support the lord, fear the lord, or are obligated to the lord.


Havn't I said that? Yes, I think with this we are one oppinion.


@ Azrai:
This would explain RP and realm magic. Good point!