Dauren

[ShadowMoon]

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[ShadowMoon]

I created a Coat of Arms for Dauren, again using kgauck's excellent shield primer...

Coat of Arms description based on my campaign:
Red (Gules) and Black (Sable) Field originates Danigau, since Dauren was established by Danig and Adler families, Chevron Field Pattern was selected primary to symbolize Hoarfell mountains from which precious minerals and metals were mined, silver especially. Silver (Argent) is the Charge color of Griffin rampart holding a warhammer, although originally it was only a griffin, but since many Mur-Killad Karamhul refuged to Dauren, Colier Caerson incorporated Righmorh's Hammer on Dauren Coat of Arms. Before Dauren independancy (fall of the Anuirean Empire), eagle was used as Charge on Dauren shield instead of griffin, representing Adler family. Dauren selected griffon, because it is widely rumored that these fantastic beasts nest upon high cloudy Hoarfell peaks and because they wanted to remove the eagle because during Anuirean occupation it was swapped with two-headed eagle to represent Anuire, and the old eagle represented Wierech. Dauren was careful not to imply it favours Wierech above Danigau, and this way it gained its own symbol. Charge Addendum, the Lily was left on the Coat of Arms mainly for visual effect, although many times already Danig and Adler insisted it should be removed...

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5251/daurenshieldux7.png

Comments please...

Basically; In or Out?

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[kgauck]

Very nice. The only observation I would make is that Dauren and Danigau would have red, white, and black coats of arms. Unless we have a back-story for why this is so (some ancient realm, both states represent) its unlikely that two adjacent realms would have the same colors.

I tried artificially to balance this in the Anuirean arms, creating an ahistorically even distribution of colors, charges, decisions whether to use charges or patterns, and use of one large or several small patterns. I have armorial maps of England and France for the Hundred Years War, and this has been my guide for how much variation is normal.

[kgauck]

On the fleur de lis, I didn't use any in Anuire. I did confine some charges to parts of Anuire. The rose, for instance, is only found in the West coast, and places nearby. The fleur de lis may be a common Brecht charge, or may be limited to the western Brecht states. I don't think we'll see it outside Brechtur.

[cccpxepoj]

IN, if you ask me, man you are doing a great job.

[ShadowMoon]

Very nice. The only observation I would make is that Dauren and Danigau would have red, white, and black coats of arms. Unless we have a back-story for why this is so (some ancient realm, both states represent) its unlikely that two adjacent realms would have the same colors.


Well it may go back before The War of the Shadow, like Andu Houses, Brecht Ancient Houses/Clans/whatever... So colours might originate in the Old Continent...

Well Dauren Coat of Arms description is what I am using in my campaign, and it goes back before Anuriean occupation, but I never went far back as the Flight from the Shadow... Who knows, well we might devise something...

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[Sorontar]

Looking at the holdings, I noticed that Bugbear's Watch (3/4) has a level 5 law holding. Is that possible?

[Sorontar]

Also, did someone make a PS of Dauren?

[AndrewTall]

Looking at the holdings, I noticed that Bugbear's Watch (3/4) has a level 5 law holding. Is that possible?

No, must be a typo. Law cannot exceed level as far as I am aware, although maybe a special structure could permit the level to go higher, or to be treated as though it were higher - can't see anything in the write up to support such a structure though.

[Sorontar]

okay, I changed it to a level 3 holding