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ShadowMoon
05-08-2007, 10:36 AM
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Thelandrin
05-08-2007, 10:52 AM
Interesting, but why do half-Elves get a racial level to take, when no other humanoids (short of bugbears and awn/ehrsheghlien) get this dubious benefit?

ShadowMoon
05-08-2007, 11:02 AM
Interesting, but why do half-Elves get a racial level to take, when no other humanoids (short of bugbears and awn/ehrsheghlien) get this dubious benefit?


Goblin is a basic Race, and as it takes levels in Goblin, it becomes a Hobgoblin, and further a Bugbear.

Elves and Dwarves have Racial Levels too, I just haven't posted them yet.

As well as all other Racial Templates, like Shade, Lycanthrope, and/or Yuan-Ti.


Half-Elves gets to get one level, because they have basic racial abilities of a non-elven race it originaly belongs to, plus those minor basic Half-Elven abilities. That one level is simply reserved for advanced Sidhe-like abilities. Because Half-Elf is a Racial Template, rather than a Race. Besides it keeps the balance, and avoids Level Adjustment.

Ariadne
05-08-2007, 11:41 AM
Seems to be simply some kind of Paragon class (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/racialParagonClasses.htm). This variant rules are very polular meanwhile, so why not creating/ adjusting some for BR too..

ShadowMoon
05-08-2007, 11:55 AM
Seems to be simply some kind of Paragon class (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/racialParagonClasses.htm). This variant rules are very polular meanwhile, so why not creating/ adjusting some for BR too..

Yes but Paragon class is an advancement of the basic race, it goes beyond original race abilities. So in my campaign if I would implement Paragon levels, they would be addition to existing Racial Classes and/or Racial Templates. Like having Half-Elf Racial Template with one level, and having a Half-Elf Paragon with up to three more levels. But Paragons are to fantastic for my taste.

I am more inclined to have Savage Species system for more advanced Races and/or Racial Templates. Thats why my Dwarves, Elves, Goblins, and Orogs have Racial Levels (because in my BR campaign they have LA, but Savage Species system is much more "natural" and balanced), and Awnsheghlien, Ersheghlien, Half-Elves, Lycanthropes, Shades, and Yuan-Ti have Racial Template levels, because they are not "real" races.

Thelandrin
05-08-2007, 12:47 PM
People don't often say that Savage Species is balanced :) I know what you mean though, like the shegh advancement classes.

ShadowMoon
05-08-2007, 12:51 PM
People don't often say that Savage Species is balanced :) I know what you mean though, like the shegh advancement classes.

Well yeah, but as long as we know what I mean all is OK...

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