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Green Knight
02-11-2002, 01:48 PM
Just wondering:

Are there still a lot of BR fans who use 2nd edition rules or have most converted to 3rd ed?

What would be the major argumnets for either switching to 3rd or keeping 2nd?

Lord Eldred
02-11-2002, 09:28 PM
Major arguments not to switch:

1. Don't want to spend the money on 3ed.
2. Not everything in Birthright is converted to 3ed.

WE SWITCHED ANY WAY!

Arius Vistoon
02-12-2002, 11:40 AM
i think they are good, very good argument !!!!

but for the last, we can change it, no !!!

Lord Valkyr
02-13-2002, 04:02 PM
I will stay with 2nd I am pretty much set in my ways now.

Finkin Swiftfingers
02-13-2002, 05:00 PM
My group bleeds 3e now. Course, for the bulk of us, we had retired from gaming till the 3e release. Now it's hard to believe us retiring again.

warlord_nabron
02-13-2002, 06:04 PM
I only had two reasons for not switching; financial (I'm not about to spend bales of money all over again -- the only stuff I was buying was BR anyway) and the fact that I don't play with anyone that *did* switch. It's just a matter of personal taste.

Green Knight
02-17-2002, 09:51 AM
3ed doesn't really cost that much does it? You can get everything you need for less than $100 :)

warlord_nabron
02-17-2002, 11:53 AM
Have you seen the prices? If T$R had been charging as much for campaign settings (et al), they never would've gone broke ;-)

But I don't mean that their flagship books are pricey, I mean that to go and buy product as I had done for AD&D would be expensive. There's just no sense in it, since I and everyone I know still plays whatever we had been playing when WotC unveiled its creation. Those "core" books are available for free online any way, so why spend the $100 at all if those are all you're going to buy? (And if I'd known that when I bought my copy of the PHB there would be a little more room on my bookcase.)

Lawgiver
02-17-2002, 02:14 PM
Orginally posted by Green Knight
3ed doesn't really cost that much does it? You can get everything you need for less than $100 :)


If a $100 is such a paltry sum... please forward all donations to the following paypal accounts:
lavvgiver@hotmail.com - me
arjan@birthright.net - Arjan the Webmaster

Green Knight
02-17-2002, 09:45 PM
Virtual $100 forwarded to Lawgiver's imaginary account ;)

I'm not trying to persuade people to use a lot of money on 3E. WotC is making enough already.

My point is that $100 isn't a lot for the three core rulebooks. They are all you are going to need - we have all the BR stuff already :) You could even share with you friends...

Lawgiver
02-17-2002, 11:02 PM
Orginally posted by Green Knight
Virtual $100 forwarded to Lawgiver's imaginary account ;)

My point is that $100 isn't a lot for the three core rulebooks. They are all you are going to need - we have all the BR stuff already :) You could even share with you friends...


I assure you the acccount is quite real. :P

If you spent $100 to buy the PHB, DMG and monstorous manual you got robbed. Never ever, ever, ever pay retail prices! If you don't use ebay go to http://www.bestbookbuys.com its the ultimate site for low book prices (esp. college text books!). its a search engine that hits of the top book selling sites and gives you a list of the lowest prices (new and used). Several new ones for under $20.
Even Amazon has the PHB and DMG in a package deal for $42 w/o shipping.

I still say ebay all the way. I got my PHB and DMG, BRAND NEW, for $27 plus about $6 in shipping. Can't beat $33 for both (too often anyway).

Strahd
02-18-2002, 01:46 AM
Orginally posted by Lawgiver
I still say ebay all the way. I got my PHB and DMG, BRAND NEW, for $27 plus about $6 in shipping. Can't beat $33 for both (too often anyway).
Well, internet beats them all. If you don't mind the electronic format at least ;)

Green Knight
02-18-2002, 10:28 AM
Thanks for the tip. I must be earning too much money to be spending it so carelessly :P

Lawgiver
02-19-2002, 12:06 AM
Orginally posted by Strahd
Well, internet beats them all. If you don't mind the electronic format at least ;)


Internet is fine till you need them in a game session. By the time you print the suckers you may as well have bought them for the cost in a new inkcartridge!

Strahd
02-19-2002, 03:14 AM
Internet is fine till you need them in a game session. By the time you print the suckers you may as well have bought them for the cost in a new inkcartridge!
Unless you can print them for free of course :) (god bless the university, its T3 connection and its laser printer)

Green Knight
02-20-2002, 08:44 AM
Praised be Haelyn, for he has given us higher education :P