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AndrewTall
05-29-2013, 08:18 PM
Does anyone have a good name for the Siren's realm? I doubt that it's people or any one else uses her name for the whole realm - the people must have a name for it and she's a fairly recent addition to the area.

Any ideas?

Sorontar
05-30-2013, 04:13 AM
Considering that it was formed by the Dusk Man from various Halskapa coastal provinces and the main religion is Nesirie, perhaps the name should be based on Halskapa and something sea-related. Or maybe Halspaka and Dusk Man related?

A Danish translation of the words "weep" or "tear" may also be suitable, given the terror the Dusk Man gave the land and the goddess and water symbol. Over time, the meaning might have been lost and the Siren might not have understood it and hence not changed it.

Mind you, the provincial names don't seem very Rjurik. Perhaps the population is a mix of Rjurik, Anuirean and secret Masetian, with Gnoll, Goblin and Kobold communities in parts.

Sorontar

Sorontar
05-30-2013, 08:40 AM
Relying on a quick look through multiple online dictinaries and translation tools:

Using Swedish

Morgrat- from Mörk gråt 'dark weeping'

Using Finnish

Pimitku - pimeä itku 'dark weeping'

Using Danish

Morkar - mørke tårer 'dark weeping'

Old Norse/Icelandic

Myrkratur - myrkur grátur 'dark weeping'

AndrewTall
06-01-2013, 03:27 PM
Thanks Sorontar.

I suspect given the names that the land was near-empty before the empire came, although why that would be so I can't guess.

Another possibility is that the empire just stomped the land and renamed it like in Dhoesone.

Is the Halskapan history canon? I don't recall.

Sorontar
06-02-2013, 01:51 AM
Is the Halskapan history canon? I don't recall.
From memory, the Dusk Man is canon.

I imagine that Halskapa would care about its coastal provinces even if the hills and weather prevented much farming etc. Therefore, I can't imagine them being empty. They might just have had problems with access problems with the rest of Halskapa and the Wailing Winds (preventing them being good ports) and that is part of the reason why the Dusk Man won.

As it is, the role of the wiki is to expand on the original descriptions in a way that is more all-encompassing. We have been trying to make each description of a province or regent work into the other desciptuions we have made, canon or not.

Sorontar

Marco Fossati
06-03-2013, 08:29 PM
From memory, the Dusk Man is canon.

Sorontar
Dusk Man is canon.

lucky
06-14-2013, 06:06 AM
My players just went over there and I called it Lastros and the people the Iliastré (EE-lee-ah-stray).

Obviously that's not cannon, but I built up a nice image library of cliff cities and a distinct human ethnicity separate from the Anuireans and Northerners.

AndrewTall
06-15-2013, 09:21 AM
Thanks Lucky, what made you think of cliff-top villages?

Is the name made-up or tweaked from the Scandanavians/Celts?

lucky
06-15-2013, 09:57 AM
Thanks Lucky, what made you think of cliff-top villages?

Is the name made-up or tweaked from the Scandanavians/Celts?

Name is made-up, but the intent was to make the realm culturally distinct from the rest of Cerilia. Plus, from an imagination / mapping stand point, I was looking for something that was more magical and seeing mountains covering the Siren's lands made me think of inlet cut gorges with white marble towers built right into the cliff faces.