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Morgul
09-14-2012, 07:38 AM
My power supply went out on my XP desktop, where I did my modding for this game. My question is how do you use SCENED95 in windows 7? Tried running in 16 bit, 16 bit Win95 compatibility, 32 bit of the same and regular 64 bit with the same results. Did windows 98 just to be sure also and I get the same error report : "00563a0f referenced memory at 00000010". Is there some dll I'm missing or something else?

Also the 1.3 and 1.4 update exe files on my computer are not readable, it says it needs a 32 bit or 64 bit version to load. I don't have a lot of time to mod this game atm, but if anyone could help. I could get back to updating GA and at least put out the left out factions into the game.

Also for those who can run SCENED95 and are having problems with my Gorgon's Campaign, save the game and load the save into SCENED95. There you can change/fix any problems (including the potential video/storyline errors). Any problems with that scenerio note me here, I should have my XP back up in a few months and be able to give better answers along with some new campaigns.

Kami
09-14-2012, 03:46 PM
In my experience, getting anything Gorgon's Alliance related running in Windows 7 didn't work. I'm guessing switching to DOSBox isn't an option, so I would use VirtualBox (https://www.virtualbox.org/) and install Windows XP into it.

Edit: I've put together installation instructions for Birthright on Windows 10 including multiplayer. They're available here: https://www.kiranwelle.com/birthright

This setup should work over VPN, but I haven't had a chance to test it.

Morgul
09-19-2012, 07:48 PM
I got it to finally work, had to reinstall them game to its generic file path and set my display settings to 16 bit to help with some crash issues. DosBox really helps with running the actual game, but can't run the scene or char applications. I'm back in business and ready to mod. I'll get back to putting Mieres into the game, making some of the non-landed factions playable and try putting the Giantdowns into the game.

brffl
09-21-2012, 05:48 AM
I have got the virtual box installed on my computer, however, I cannot get past this message : Fatal no bootable medium found! System halted. Would you by chance know of anyway to help me with this problem? I cannot wait to get further involved with this site. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Muaadeeb
09-21-2012, 05:51 AM
I have got the virtual box installed on my computer, however, I cannot get past this message : Fatal no bootable medium found! System halted. Would you by chance know of anyway to help me with this problem? I cannot wait to get further involved with this site. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Goto Google and paste this into the search box and hit search:

Fatal no bootable medium found! System halted.


Good luck!

brffl
09-21-2012, 07:01 AM
Thank you for your help. I have some leads now. I need to get a USB stick, so I can install something called Ubuntu. I will purchase one of these maybe tomorrow. One step closer now. I can't wait to get gaming here!!!!!!:D:cool:

Sorontar
09-21-2012, 01:01 PM
Thank you for your help. I have some leads now. I need to get a USB stick, so I can install something called Ubuntu. I will purchase one of these maybe tomorrow. One step closer now. I can't wait to get gaming here!!!!!!:D:cool:

Ubuntu is a free version of the Linux operating system. It is like Microsoft Windows but different. If you weren't aware of this, are you sure you want to use it? While it is easier for new users than it used to be, you may still have issues. Take everything step-by-step.

Sorontar, who is presently using Ubuntu for home and work

brffl
09-22-2012, 12:38 AM
I purchased a USB stick. I got Ubuntu up and running now (finally). I am currently working on the next step. I appreciate your advice. Thank you.

I got past that little bump in the road. I am now learning more about this Ubuntu. I thank you very much for your advice.

I cannot get this game to work on my computer. Ubuntu was unsuccessful. I was wondering if you know any other options? I am learning more about doing this kind of stuff, so I am no expert at all. This totally f*cking s*ucks, all I want to do is play this game: my all time favorite game.


P.S. Thanks for giving me a heads up about Ubuntu not being a 100% chance of getting Birthright to play, if you had not told me so, I would have been even further disappointed.

I got past that part, however Ubuntu did not yeild the success that I thought. Windows 7 64 bit compatibility is my hurdle I cannot get past. Any ideas, my friend?

Thank you so much for taking this time to send me this. I will try this out. :cool:

Morgul, I followed your advice all the way through. I (with you help of course) was able to finally get it to run. I am looking at it right now. I can't wait to play some games with all of you. I cannot wait to try some of the npc realms also. Thanks my friend. I almost gave up hope of getting this game to work again.:D:cool:

I got it to run my friend. Morgul helped me with some advice that went through. I cannot wait to delve into all of this cool stuff on the site. Maybe I can play some games with you and the others!

Maudeeb, I finally got it to work! The real credit go's to this helpful fellow named Morgul since he took the time to send me advice that I followed out. I really appreciate the helpful support that you and the others have given me.

P.S.

Sorry if I came across as a fussy sort.

Sorontar
09-23-2012, 10:32 AM
I am sorry but I have no idea how to advise you any further on this.

Sorontar

Arius Vistoon
09-23-2012, 11:43 AM
if i understand you want use gorgone alliance (a game for old windows) on an ubuntu ?

in this case, i think you can see wine, it's an application to use windows game on ubuntu.

More information here (http://wiki.winehq.org/FrontPage). it's very simple to install (it's a package) but for install a windows game it's more complex (not very complex but not easy...some years before when i use it. now i don't now)

brffl
09-24-2012, 01:12 AM
Thank you for this lead. I will keep you informed on my progress.:cool:

Morgul
09-24-2012, 10:27 PM
Not sure if you are using W7, but if you are having problems with the bit rate with W7 right click on the decktop "personalize". Then click "Display" (left bottom corner), then "change display settings", then click "Advanced Settings" , then click on the "Monitor" tab and change from 32 bit to 16 bit. That helped me run scened and the character editor smoothly.

Brffl have you tried using DosBox? It works fine for me. Install is pretty easy, here's a pdf that explains. Most people I talk to use a digital copy, to save their disk from getting damaged, so the guide is perfect for that. If you are using the CD, then instead of what the guide says for the CD drive just use the command "e e:\ -t cdrom" (e being an example drive). Also, the install path should be "c:\SIERRA\BIRTHRT", to be able to run scened and chared to run smoothly.

Muaadeeb
10-01-2012, 05:15 AM
That is great news! Any chance you can post the steps you took....

brffl
10-01-2012, 05:30 AM
How would I do that? I'm sorry, I am just starting to learn a whole lot about this kinda messaging stuff. However, Morgal could probably send that attachment file that he sent to me about six days ago. I bet that would be much quicker. But I am always willing to learn how to do stuff that I don't know how to do.

Hello Morgul would mind sending me some directions about how to get the Rhoube, Spiderfell, and Markazor files to playable. I downloaded them already. Thanks.:D

Morgul
03-01-2014, 02:35 PM
Well I'm necro-threading, but it is my thread (also windows 8+ is out now). To answer all the questions of loading my games you put them in the save folder (Gorgons Alliance) and load them as a save file. Runs fine on my windows 8 dell (with dosbox), but I had to use an older computer to use scened and char editor (16 bit doesn't work with the newer systems of windows).

My modding is being resumed, for those that want to mod you need to either use an older version of windows emulator (google) or use a computer with windows 7 or below. This is, however not the only game I am working on, although I am making a Birthright chronicle on Warcraft 3 and trying to get a total war mod going (unlikely). Which means my projects with this game are not going to be expediently done, coding to rework this game is messes up the editors when exported (something to do with file paths). Either way, within the next few months I will at least post editing the files of the game. If you want to start use hex-editors, notepad, gimp, and use other programs renaming and editing extensions.

I no longer have the attachment I sent to brffl, if he is still on here then he can either tell me what it was or put it on this thread. Remember on some computers it is easier to play not to play in full-screen.

Morgul
03-01-2014, 03:37 PM
To explain steps:

The pdf I posted explains the install specs (to run) and the games are loaded from sav files in the save file directory in the game, plus dosbox's site explains everything else (how to install, directories, specs & solutions to OS problems). If you have problems with my downloads on windows, then pm me. Outside of windows OS, then I will be barely be able to help you. Easy way to find where your sav folder is either search it through the Br folder or check the names of the pre-saves that come with the game (click load and those names will be save files).

Also a tip to modders, you can mod anything within the first turn (scened). Anything else with scened will cause a crash.

DM-Isaelie
03-04-2014, 01:00 AM
VirtualBox with WinXP is better for running BR in vs DosBox, it runs faster, and you can Multiplayer it if you really wanted to.

Morgul
03-30-2014, 07:47 AM
Yes, it does. But, most people use db for the ui. I could post an install guide for VB, if there are enough people who need it. PM if you do until then.