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Niels E. Wisth
06-09-1997, 11:40 PM
Hello all!

A thought just crossed my mind: The Anuireans use the Anuirean calendar, =
of
course. But what about the other cultures? I reckon that the number of da=
ys
are the same (otherwise would be too much trouble). But what about the
names of months and holidays? Do the Rjurik, Brect=FCr and Khinasi use th=
e
anuirean calendar (having been under the Anuirean empire), or do they hav=
e
their own? The Vos certainly ought to use a unique calendar, since they
have never been under Anuirean influence. Not to mention the elves, dwarv=
es
and humanoids...

Are there any official calendars out there? Or do I have to make my own?
You ought to know this, Rich... :)

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Niels E. Wisth - Nudis Verbis

TSRRich@aol.co
06-13-1997, 03:49 AM
In a message dated 97-06-11 02:54:54 EDT, you write:

>Are there any official calendars out there? Or do I have to make my own?
>You ought to know this, Rich... :)
>
>

I'd say that it's a reasonable guess that the Anuirean calendar was adopted
by the Rjurik, the Brechtur, and the Khinasi...perhaps unwillingly in some
cases. The Vos might have a lunar calendar, considering that they were once
the people of Vorynn. As for the other races...I don't have any idea off the
top of my head. That's one of those details that I've just never gotten
around to thinking about...which means, if you have any good ones, you should
definitely post them here!!!

Rich Baker
Birthright Designer

Niels E. Wisth
06-13-1997, 10:10 AM
(Rich wrote)
> I'd say that it's a reasonable guess that the Anuirean calendar was
adopted
> by the Rjurik, the Brechtur, and the Khinasi...perhaps unwillingly in
some
> cases. The Vos might have a lunar calendar, considering that they were
once
> the people of Vorynn. As for the other races...I don't have any idea of=
f
the
> top of my head. That's one of those details that I've just never gotten
> around to thinking about...which means, if you have any good ones, you
should
> definitely post them here!!!

According to the back page of the Cities of the Sun supplement, The
Anuireans and the Rjurik both use Michaeline Reckoning, and therefore
should have just about the same month names, perhaps "Rjurikized" among t=
he
northeners. The Khinasi, however, use the year of the Masetian Arrival as
their year 0. Would they use the old count of years and new names of
months? I believe the Khinasi have cultural roots strong enough to use a
separate calendar (what about just using the arabic month names?). Cities
of the Sun also states that Haelyn's Count is the most widely-used
calendar. Therefore, I'd say these are used by the Brecht and the Vos.
(Probably called Sera's Count and Belinik's Count, in High Brecht and Vos=
,
respectively.) Still, the M=FCden supplement states that "many Brecht
scholars since the Anuirean occupation continue to use the Anuirean Book =
of
Days calendar for record keeping". Then we could get a split between the
areas that were under anuirean occupation, and those who weren't...

Here are my proposals for the Rjurik and Khinasi calendars:
(Any Germans or Russians out there who could make the Brect and Vos ones?=
)

All Rjurik i's are pronounced as in "is" and "intriguing", NOT as in "ice=
"
and "I".
All Rjurik e's are pronounced as in "entertainment" and "estimate", NOT a=
s
in "evening" and "eagle".
All Rjurik a's are pronounced as in the British "after" and "another", NO=
T
as in "animal" and "anorexia".
And DO pronounce the r's (try rolling your tounge). :)
=20
Gregorian Anuirean KHINASI RJURIK=09
January Keltier Kaanoon Ath-Thani Kaldir (KELL-tirr)
February Faniele Shoobaat Fannigjelde (FANN-i-gjell-de)=09
March Pasiphiel Aadhaar Passifjell (PASS-i-fjell)=09

April Sarimiere Neesaan Sarrimjere (SARR-i-mie-re)
May Talienir Ayaar Tallienir (TALL-i-e-nirr)=09
June Roelir Khuzayraan Roelir (ro-E-lirr)

July Haelynir Tammooz Haelnynir (ha-E-lyn-irr)
August Anarire Aab Annaride (ANN-a-ri-de)
September Deismir Aylool Deismir (DEIS-mir)

October Erntenir Tishreel Al-Awwal Erntenir (ERN-te-nirr)
November Sehnir Tishreen Ath-Thaanee Sennir (SENN-irr)
December Emmanir Kaanoon Al-Awwal Emmanir (EM-ma-nirr)

I hope your mail reader doesn't destroy my table. ;)

The festivals, now that's another story alltogether. I have no idea what
they would be in Khinasi, but with the Rjurik it's easy to base them on t=
he
celtic equinox- and solstice festivals. The Norwegian words are these:=20

Vernal Equinox V=E5rjevnd=F8gn (Vaarjevndoegn)
Summer solstice Sommersolverv=09
Autumnal Equinox H=F8stjevnd=F8gn (Hoestjevndoegn)
Winter solstice Vintersolverv

(if you got a lot of squiggles in the first examples, use the ones in
parenthesis).

=E5's (aa's) almost pronounced as in "allstars" and "obnoxious"
=F8's (oe's) almost pronouced as in "upstairs" and "understood"

In addition, the celts had four great fire festivals throughout the year:
Samhain (October 31st), Imbolc (February 1st), Beltaine (April 30th), and
Lammas (August 1st). I've got no Norwegian names for these, but they may =
be
added or moved to the four empty spaces in the cerilian calendar.

I hope you can use this (and feel free to use it, copy it and publish it =
in
any media you want. I claim no copyrights at all).

Have fun!
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Niels E. Wisth - Nudis Verbis

L. Willett
06-13-1997, 03:12 PM
>(Rich wrote)
>> I'd say that it's a reasonable guess that the Anuirean calendar was
>adopted
>> by the Rjurik, the Brechtur, and the Khinasi...perhaps unwillingly in
>some
>> cases. The Vos might have a lunar calendar, considering that they were
>once
>> the people of Vorynn. As for the other races...I don't have any idea off
>the
>> top of my head. That's one of those details that I've just never gotten
>> around to thinking about...which means, if you have any good ones, you
>should
>> definitely post them here!!!
>
>According to the back page of the Cities of the Sun supplement, The
>Anuireans and the Rjurik both use Michaeline Reckoning, and therefore
>should have just about the same month names, perhaps "Rjurikized" among the
>northeners. The Khinasi, however, use the year of the Masetian Arrival as
>their year 0. Would they use the old count of years and new names of
>months? I believe the Khinasi have cultural roots strong enough to use a
>separate calendar (what about just using the arabic month names?). Cities
>of the Sun also states that Haelyn's Count is the most widely-used
>calendar. Therefore, I'd say these are used by the Brecht and the Vos.
>(Probably called Sera's Count and Belinik's Count, in High Brecht and Vos,
>respectively.) Still, the M=FCden supplement states that "many Brecht
>scholars since the Anuirean occupation continue to use the Anuirean Book of
>Days calendar for record keeping". Then we could get a split between the
>areas that were under anuirean occupation, and those who weren't...

From Ruins of Empire, pg 5:
"Time is measured differently on where in Cerilia one happens to be. The
Brechts mesaure time by tide and moon, while the Khinasi track the passage
of days, months and years by the position of the sun. The Vos generally
don't care about the days or months - they measure time by the naming of
the years, with the first snowfall after a brief summer beginning a new=
year."
"Anuireans (and Rjuriks, forced long ago t oaccept their method) use the
_Book of Days_, which they base on the orbit of the moon and the movement
of the constellation of the Haelyn, ...."
It goes on the describe the calander...

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