Sidhain
04-29-1999, 06:10 PM
>> During my visit to Scandanavia and at other Scandanavian stores in the US
I've
>> seen wood-carved statues of trolls. Now these trolls aren't much like
your
>> typical 9' tall AD&D troll. Has anyone ever though of introducing a
Pygmy
>> Troll or something like that that lives in the forests of Rjurik and eats
>> children (or whatever those scadanavian trolls do)? I'm not expert on
>> Scadanavian mythology so I though I'd just bring up the idea and let
someone
>> else form it up.
>>
>
>The trolls from Scandenavian mythology are hardly small, that is just
>the cute impression for tourists. They are very similar to the trolls of
>Tolkien, large hulking brutes with most of the time little brains who
>love to eat human flesh or rob them. In other stories, they could be
>seen as hill giants, ogres or even ugly mean humans. For short, it is a
>rather general term for all scary ugly evil humanoids of man size or
>larger. It certainly is never the TSR troll, which I have never read
>about outside AD&D. Those of smaller size are kobolds (if I remember
>correctly) and roughly equal human size would be goblin.
And also opposed to the Trolls of the Vyking/Norse Peoples whose Trolls were
sorcererous small and very Dwarf like (some of them at least)
The poem Beowulf is also one of the earliest recorded trolls and its huge
lumbering semi-aquatic monster that kills everyone easily until Beowulf
beats it to death with its own arm (18/00 strength anyone?)
As for Rjurik/Anuirean/Vos peoples
Rjurik Comes across more as a Welsh/Scots Cross in beliefs and attitudes
with some Scandinavian traits.
Anuireans are more akin to the Franks, and in fact I have a suspicion that
the Empire is meant to reflect Charlemagnes.
Vos are indeed Russian in feeling, but I also get a distinct Steppe nomad
influence as well Mongol invading Russia?
Etc...I wonder if the lost Masetians will show up
Maybe they are in Jakandor? or Maybe they will show up as an oriental race
at a later date.
I've
>> seen wood-carved statues of trolls. Now these trolls aren't much like
your
>> typical 9' tall AD&D troll. Has anyone ever though of introducing a
Pygmy
>> Troll or something like that that lives in the forests of Rjurik and eats
>> children (or whatever those scadanavian trolls do)? I'm not expert on
>> Scadanavian mythology so I though I'd just bring up the idea and let
someone
>> else form it up.
>>
>
>The trolls from Scandenavian mythology are hardly small, that is just
>the cute impression for tourists. They are very similar to the trolls of
>Tolkien, large hulking brutes with most of the time little brains who
>love to eat human flesh or rob them. In other stories, they could be
>seen as hill giants, ogres or even ugly mean humans. For short, it is a
>rather general term for all scary ugly evil humanoids of man size or
>larger. It certainly is never the TSR troll, which I have never read
>about outside AD&D. Those of smaller size are kobolds (if I remember
>correctly) and roughly equal human size would be goblin.
And also opposed to the Trolls of the Vyking/Norse Peoples whose Trolls were
sorcererous small and very Dwarf like (some of them at least)
The poem Beowulf is also one of the earliest recorded trolls and its huge
lumbering semi-aquatic monster that kills everyone easily until Beowulf
beats it to death with its own arm (18/00 strength anyone?)
As for Rjurik/Anuirean/Vos peoples
Rjurik Comes across more as a Welsh/Scots Cross in beliefs and attitudes
with some Scandinavian traits.
Anuireans are more akin to the Franks, and in fact I have a suspicion that
the Empire is meant to reflect Charlemagnes.
Vos are indeed Russian in feeling, but I also get a distinct Steppe nomad
influence as well Mongol invading Russia?
Etc...I wonder if the lost Masetians will show up
Maybe they are in Jakandor? or Maybe they will show up as an oriental race
at a later date.