Q: Tarazin the Grey

[Tommy Ashton]

Dragon 218 p10 by L. Richard Baker III


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At 09:08 PM 4/27/99 +1000, you wrote:
>He was detailed inan Issue of Dragon Magazine 219 or 225 If my memory serves
>me.
>
>Manfred Völk wrote:
>
>> Hi folks
>>
>> Yesterday, I received the Chronicles of Cerilia and read about the famous
>> Tarazin the Grey.
>> As I know, that this matter has been discussed in this list before so
>> here is my question:
>>
>> Does anyone have further information on Tarazin the Grey or is there any
>> BR stuff containing something about this?
>>
>> You see, i need more, more, more :-P
>>
>> CU
>>
>> Manni
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[Manfred V=?ISO-8859-1?Q?]

Hi folks

Yesterday, I received the Chronicles of Cerilia and read about the famous
Tarazin the Grey.
As I know, that this matter has been discussed in this list before so
here is my question:

Does anyone have further information on Tarazin the Grey or is there any
BR stuff containing something about this?

You see, i need more, more, more :-P

CU

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[Chrys murphy]

He was detailed inan Issue of Dragon Magazine 219 or 225 If my memory serves
me.

Manfred Völk wrote:

> Hi folks
>
> Yesterday, I received the Chronicles of Cerilia and read about the famous
> Tarazin the Grey.
> As I know, that this matter has been discussed in this list before so
> here is my question:
>
> Does anyone have further information on Tarazin the Grey or is there any
> BR stuff containing something about this?
>
> You see, i need more, more, more :-P
>
> CU
>
> Manni
>
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[Chrys murphy]

well, that about tells you how good my memory is then : )
No wonder my players complain about the continuity of our campaign - lol

Tommy Ashton wrote:

> Dragon 218 p10 by L. Richard Baker III
>
> I have a list of birthright products on my website.
> http:\\www.public.asu.edu\~ashton2\review.htm
>
> At 09:08 PM 4/27/99 +1000, you wrote:
> >He was detailed inan Issue of Dragon Magazine 219 or 225 If my memory serves
> >me.
> >
> >Manfred Völk wrote:
> >
> >> Hi folks
> >>
> >> Yesterday, I received the Chronicles of Cerilia and read about the famous
> >> Tarazin the Grey.
> >> As I know, that this matter has been discussed in this list before so
> >> here is my question:
> >>
> >> Does anyone have further information on Tarazin the Grey or is there any
> >> BR stuff containing something about this?
> >>
> >> You see, i need more, more, more :-P
> >>
> >> CU
> >>
> >> Manni
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[Christopher Kira]

I think it refers to an article in an old Dragon which gave a timeline and a
few legends of Cerilia. It's one of my most used Dragons...

CK


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Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - Q: Tarazin the Grey


> Manfred Völk wrote:
>
> > Hi folks
> >
> > Yesterday, I received the Chronicles of Cerilia and read about the
famous
> > Tarazin the Grey.
> > As I know, that this matter has been discussed in this list before so
> > here is my question:
> >
> > Does anyone have further information on Tarazin the Grey or is there any
> > BR stuff containing something about this?
> >
> > You see, i need more, more, more :-P
> >
> > CU
> >
> > Manni
> >
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> Could someone please enlighten me into what this Chronicle of Cerilia is ?
>
> Sindre
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[geeman]

Christopher Kira wrote:

> I think it refers to an article in an old Dragon which gave a timeline and a
> few legends of Cerilia. It's one of my most used Dragons...

As long as we are on the topic of dragons (and we are desperately trying to
remain ON TOPIC...) I'm curious why you guys think there are so few dragons on
Aebrynis. In general, the setting has fewer "magical" monsters running around.
Apparently, in preference to having awnsheghlien named Gorgon, rather than armor
plated bovines, but dragons would seem just as likely a candidate for
replacement as any other creature appearing in the MM. Imagine an awnsheghlien
called the Dragon! That could be pretty interesting.

Anyway, I suppose there are two parts to this topic.

1. Why are there so few dragons on Aebrynis from a "realistic" or biological
standpont?

2. Why are there so few dragons from a thematic standpoint?

Whatcha think, folks?

Gary

[Ben]

I told my players that long ago there was a big dragon conflagration of
Deismaar-proportions, and very few survived it. It was supposed to have
taken place before any written history in Cerilia, so only dragons and maybe
some elves recall it. I had a name for it, but I don't remember it now. If
anybody wants a write up I can do it.


Ben

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Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - Q: Tarazin the Grey


> Christopher Kira wrote:
>
> > I think it refers to an article in an old Dragon which gave a timeline
and a
> > few legends of Cerilia. It's one of my most used Dragons...
>
> As long as we are on the topic of dragons (and we are desperately trying
to
> remain ON TOPIC...) I'm curious why you guys think there are so few
dragons on
> Aebrynis. In general, the setting has fewer "magical" monsters running
around.
> Apparently, in preference to having awnsheghlien named Gorgon, rather than
armor
> plated bovines, but dragons would seem just as likely a candidate for
> replacement as any other creature appearing in the MM. Imagine an
awnsheghlien
> called the Dragon! That could be pretty interesting.
>
> Anyway, I suppose there are two parts to this topic.
>
> 1. Why are there so few dragons on Aebrynis from a "realistic" or
biological
> standpont?
>
> 2. Why are there so few dragons from a thematic standpoint?
>
> Whatcha think, folks?
>
> Gary
>
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[JNeighb934@aol.co]

Is the Birthright timeline still on TSR's website?

[Manfred V=?ISO-8859-1?Q?]

>
>Could someone please enlighten me into what this Chronicle of Cerilia is ?
>
>Sindre


Just the same as the BR Timeline with a lot more data about the
pre-Deismaar era. I got it from Dragon Magazin (I do not remember the
number)

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[Manfred V=?ISO-8859-1?Q?]

>Christopher Kira wrote:
>
>> I think it refers to an article in an old Dragon which gave a timeline and a
>> few legends of Cerilia. It's one of my most used Dragons...
>
>As long as we are on the topic of dragons (and we are desperately trying to
>remain ON TOPIC...) I'm curious why you guys think there are so few
>dragons on
>Aebrynis. In general, the setting has fewer "magical" monsters running
>around.
>Apparently, in preference to having awnsheghlien named Gorgon, rather than
>armor
>plated bovines, but dragons would seem just as likely a candidate for
>replacement as any other creature appearing in the MM. Imagine an
>awnsheghlien
>called the Dragon! That could be pretty interesting.

As a matter of fact there is one character called the Dragon situated in
Drachenward. According to the information provided in several BR
material, nobody knows anything about him...
>
>Anyway, I suppose there are two parts to this topic.
>
>1. Why are there so few dragons on Aebrynis from a "realistic" or biological
>standpont?

A dragon needs food worth 5 GB (I think Ed posted that "houserule" into
this list, if I remember correctly). Considering this I would say,
dragons depopulate a province simply by living there. As a result, all
races of Cerilia would fight them till there is almost no dragon left?
>
>2. Why are there so few dragons from a thematic standpoint?
>
Hmmm, that is a good question. I think, dragons are too powerful and so
they would be fought all over Cerilia or they would rule the world
surpressing all other races.

>Whatcha think, folks?
>
>Gary


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[DKEvermore@aol.co]

In a message dated 4/27/99 5:48:06 PM Central Daylight Time,
GeeMan@linkline.com writes:

> 1. Why are there so few dragons on Aebrynis from a "realistic" or biological
> standpont?
>
> 2. Why are there so few dragons from a thematic standpoint?
>
> Whatcha think, folks?
>
> Gary
>
I believe the books say (the Atlas I think) there are maybe a half dozen
left. Why? If memory serves, the material gives wars between dragons as the
main scourge that dragonkind has faced.

Additionally, a good number apparently died at Deismaar. Maybe someone can
quote a particular reference on that one, too.

Not to worry, though, if you like dragons you might pull something like I
did. The PCs went on a special quest to the Dragon Isles and recovered 3
enchanted dragon eggs of indeterminable age. They hatched and are growing at
a remarkable/alarming rate. The legend I placed around them is that they
were to be the final act of revenge by ancient dragon ancestors upon the
"youth" who went to Cerilia.

My overall goal is that it will trigger the awakening of a few more dragons
who may arrive in Cerilia -- depending on what the party eventually does with
the new hatchlings.

- -Dustin Evermore

[Pieter Sleijpen]

DKEvermore@aol.com wrote:

> I believe the books say (the Atlas I think) there are maybe a half dozen
> left. Why? If memory serves, the material gives wars between dragons as the
> main scourge that dragonkind has faced.
>
> Additionally, a good number apparently died at Deismaar. Maybe someone can
> quote a particular reference on that one, too.

It is also suggested that there was a war between dragons and giants,
this is given as one of the main reasons why both races have lost
against the elves. I think this was stated in the article on the dragon
in Yeninskiy in the Dragon. But I am not sure.

I have placed a dragon in the Rainserpent Mountains. It is still
sleeping in those 0/9 woods in Khourane (the one that people have tried
to settle, but never succeeded in). Somewhere in the future either
el-Sirad or the Magian will rob the dragon and blame the Emira of
Khourane (a PC), which will generate some nice adventures.

Pieter Sleijpen

[Mark A Vandermeulen]

On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Pieter Sleijpen wrote:

> It is also suggested that there was a war between dragons and giants,
> this is given as one of the main reasons why both races have lost
> against the elves. I think this was stated in the article on the dragon
> in Yeninskiy in the Dragon. But I am not sure.

Its also a significant part of the "King of the Giantdowns" adventure.

Mark VanderMeulen
vander+@pitt.edu

[Mark A Vandermeulen]

On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, GeeMan wrote:

> 1. Why are there so few dragons on Aebrynis from a "realistic" or biological
> standpont?

Personally, I think it is in part because they decimated their numbers
fighting the giants, and in part because they beat each other up with
mating struggles and territorial defense (I believe that Tarazin the Grey
article make some reference to this later aspect). I think the article
also mentions that dragons just don't seem to feel like reproducing very
much any more. Thus, most surviving dragons should be in one of the
"ancient" catagories.

> 2. Why are there so few dragons from a thematic standpoint?

To preserve the draconian mystique. Dragons should be rare, extremely
powerful, and a terrible risk for PC's to go up against. PC's should FEAR
dragons, and that can't happen when a new dragon crops up every month, and
seventh level characters say "ho-hum, another dragon hoard." I fully agree
that dragons should be a REALM level event, not a character level event. A
dragon should decimate province levels when it wakes, ravenous from a long
sleep. It should be capable of destroying or routing whole army units on
the field of battle. It should be capable of instilling fear into the
heart of AWNSEGHLEIN, even the Gorgon and the Raven and the Serpent.

Mark VanderMeulen
vander+@pitt.edu

[Cobos]

Manfred Völk wrote:

> Hi folks
>
> Yesterday, I received the Chronicles of Cerilia and read about the famous
> Tarazin the Grey.
> As I know, that this matter has been discussed in this list before so
> here is my question:
>
> Does anyone have further information on Tarazin the Grey or is there any
> BR stuff containing something about this?
>
> You see, i need more, more, more :-P
>
> CU
>
> Manni
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