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VITO_HIMURA
09-10-2004, 01:36 PM
Hello, my name is vito, Iīm spanish and i canīt speack english well.
Pardon me if you canīt understand me please...
My post is to question how many members can program in c , c++, visual basic, java or in any languaje (inclusive python XDD).
My intention is create a a game based in D20BRCS similar to gorgons alliance but beeter...
if is possible between all can do it.
If evreybody is in agree with me please interesteds contact with me :
vito_himura@terra.es
vito_himura@hotmail.com
Thank you.
Arius Vistoon
09-10-2004, 03:03 PM
euh..me but....
i have already my own project based on D20 Birthright rules.
who advances enough well ^^
See this post : http://www.birthright.net/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=2825
and this forum : http://symuon.com/birth/forum
CMonkey
09-12-2004, 01:18 PM
Vito, there are two problems:
1. You do not understand the scope of what you're planning to undertake.
2. You do not hold the rights or licences to produce interactive products based on WotC IP.
Arius, be very very careful. Inclusion of any form of AI or even automated character generation will bring you unwanted legal attention.
Arius Vistoon
09-13-2004, 12:57 PM
my intention is not to create automated character generation
but a game support as Birmail or senechal ( more interactive between players and masters )
So, what are my lattitude's action about this ?
Stormcaller
09-13-2004, 01:22 PM
you could always make a module for PCgen (currently supports many d20 systems, inc modern/spycraft, original and others)
http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/
Arius Vistoon
09-13-2004, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by Stormcaller@Sep 13 2004, 02:22 PM
you could always make a module for PCgen
i 'm not interesting for several reasons
1)
PCgen is not really oriented "domain management"
2)
The generation of personage does not do left the notebook of the loads ( analyse of my software ).
3)
I consider that my knowledge in java and in English are not rather correct to work with them
4) the portability of my software
CMonkey
09-13-2004, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by Arius Vistoon@Sep 13 2004, 12:57 PM
my intention is not to create automated character generation
but a game support as Birmail or senechal ( more interactive between players and masters )
So, what are my lattitude's action about this ?
Ah. As long as the computer doesn't create anything and is just used for the number crunching, you're fine. Thus there are two basic guidelines: You can automatically generate characters as long as your program acts as a batch process. E.g. you select what classes/race/name/traits and then press a "generate" button.
If you want to generate characters interactively with the user (like in PCGen), you cannot include a dice roller for stats etc, but you can support (take input from) an external or third party one.
A_dark
09-14-2004, 07:31 AM
how come a char generator is so strictly copyrighted? I am only asking, cos it seems odd to me.... Just for conversation's sake :D
Stormcaller
09-15-2004, 10:17 AM
Well from what i have seen of PCgen (the last few days only...) you can add that sort of information in... i have already worked out how to put BP and RP into the normal stats page, it isnt hard to do.
CMonkey
09-15-2004, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by A_dark@Sep 14 2004, 07:31 AM
how come a char generator is so strictly copyrighted? I am only asking, cos it seems odd to me.... Just for conversation's sake :D
Basically, the d20 "open" licence only covers publications - is specifically prohibits the creation of "interative software" based on the system.
Licences must be obtained directly from WotC/Hasbro and (now Interplay have collapsed) Atari are the only organisation currently licenced to do so.
It's intended to stop people making unlicenced D&D computer games but as what actually constitutes a "computer game" cannot be easily defined, WotC/Hasbro's lawyers have to pick something they can define and then stick rigourously to that.
Hope that makes some sense!
CM.
Arius Vistoon
09-15-2004, 11:57 PM
in D20 system i get this point :
"Character creation":
You may indicate that a player should use a race, class, ability, etc., presented in a Covered Product in addition to, or exclusive of, those presented in the Dungeons & Dragons Player's Handbook or d20 Modern Roleplaying Game. In no way should this paragraph be construed to allow you to present the process for creating a character as defined in the previous paragraph.
Mandatory Restrictions:
No Covered Product may contain rules or instructions of any kind that:
Describe a process for Creating a Character
No Covered Product may be an "Interactive Game" as defined in this Guide.
"Covered Product":
means any release of material using the d20 System License, including:
. a computer file or combination of computer files combined into an archive
. a web page.
"Interactive Game":
means a piece of software that is designed to accept inputs from human players or their agents, and use rules to resolve the success or failure of those inputs, and return some indication of the results of those inputs to the users. Success and failure includes any determination wherein one outcome is preferable to another. This includes the random determination of hit points, ability scores, and the like.
What's means ?
everything is illigal ?
my software, pcgen, senechal, birmail......
Athos69
09-16-2004, 12:06 AM
It looks like character generation is OK, so long as: You use the Point Buy system for ability scores -and- you use a fixed-HP per level scheme. Any randomization in character generation, and it becomes an "interactive game"
A_dark
09-16-2004, 06:10 AM
Is Arius correct? Is everything illegal? Seneschal and Birmail, both fall under the "Interactive Game" description... no?
Athos69
09-16-2004, 07:32 AM
I have no experience with Seneschal, but from the description of Birmail, and the quotes of what constitutes an 'Interactive Game', I would say it qualifies as one.
Arjan
09-16-2004, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by A_dark@Sep 16 2004, 07:10 AM
Is Arius correct? Is everything illegal? Seneschal and Birmail, both fall under the "Interactive Game" description... no?
Well yes and no...
He may create his own game, but he may not use ANY of the copyrighted material without the proper license. This INCLUDES the BR20CS rules material.
Since that material is copyrighted by WoTC and the writer(s) he will need approval from them to use the info.
Arjan
Arius Vistoon
09-16-2004, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by Arjan@Sep 16 2004, 08:50 AM
Since that material is copyrighted by WoTC and the writer(s) he will need approval from them to use the info.
Arjan
And what's the process for obtain right ?
Must i be writing for WoTC if yes who is the contact ?
And for birthright.net what the form ?
Thanks for any answer
Ksaturn
09-17-2004, 03:51 AM
Red tape is #^@^!~... IMHO...
Rhylandor
09-24-2004, 02:42 AM
As far as I remember, I can make any program I want. I can make a full functioned char generator or interactive game based off of the d20 stuff....
I can use it all I want.
The minute I try to sell it or give it away, I get into trouble.
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