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Kyle Foster
01-01-1970, 12:00 AM
Agreed.

We really need to let TSR know that there is a strong core group of
fans that would support the game if they support it. If you shop the
half price places there are not many BirthRight products being resold so
that to me means that what was printed was sold and kept.

As a long time LSH (Legion Of SuperHeroes) fan I can assure you that
the small dedicated group of fans can preserve a product and keep it
going in the face of tremendous odds.

Just my thoughts on the subject.

Kyle

Sepsis
07-17-1998, 05:49 AM
A petition might be nice, but what saved Greyhawk was the Players refusal to
let it die, not a bunch of people "signing" an electronic petition. Instead
of just signing a piece of paper (or facsimile thereof) each of us should
write a letter to those in charge at TSR and let them know (in a polite
manner, of course) how much we love this setting, and that we are more then
willing to spend hard earned cash on any BR product they see fit to grace us
with. By taking the time to write a letter and by spending the postage to
send it, you can really make an impression on corporate types. But what
will most likely "save" BR is if we refuse to let it die. We need to
continue to encourage every gamer that breathes to play BR and get to love
it like we do. Draw anyone in you can, anyway you have to. It may sound
cliche, but we are in a war here folks, a war to save Birthright. Lastly
the power of Player input is not to be underestimated. Write up anything
and everything you can think of to expand this great campaign setting, and
send it in to the powers that be at Dungeon, Dragon, and TSR Inc. itself (or
publish it on the internet, and advertise here, the folks at TSR will hear
about it...right Ed...Carrie?). These are really the most powerful things
we can do to protect our favorite setting. Don't get me wrong, I don't want
you to dump the idea of a petition, but don't rely on it as your only means
of speaking out for BR. Take the time to add the personal touches that will
really get noticed.

Sepsis, rtifft@usa.net

"War is a matter of vital importance to the State;
the province of life or death;
the road to survival or ruin.
It is mandatory that it be thoroughly studied."
-Sun Tzu,(The Art of War)-

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(From: Morgramen the Magician Date: Friday, July
17, 98 12:34 AM)


>
>I'm starting to think that since we all love Birthright so much, maybe we
should
>try and organize some kind of internet "petition" & submit it to TSR.
>
>I don't know how many sites I have seen "Save the xyz!" If TSR is thinking
>about axing Birthright, maybe we can make a collective attempt at changing
their
>minds... seems to have worked for Greyhawk.
>

The Olesens
07-17-1998, 12:28 PM
> Draw anyone in you can, anyway you have to.

In my PBeM (I will be anouncing it to all very soon) I am trying to get
people that know how to play AD&D and try and teach the Birthrigt enough
so they can play in the PBeM and *hopefully* like it so much that they
go out and buy the boxed set. I already found one person on the
internet who was just getting into BR. He had te boxed set but didn't
really understand it. That might have stopped im from buying more
Birtright. But I emailed him and told him about my PBeM. Just my
little sucess story.

Anyway. Anyone who runs a PBeM should foward what we agree on here to
all the players. I know a lot of them are on the list but if we can get
those who are not then they can tell thier BR friends, and they can tell
thiers, etc.

I am glad everyone is agreed that we should do something to save BR.
Hell, I don't care if they print two new books every year. Just so long
as they keep up the supply (I have been searching for the BoM too).

There are people all over the world playing this game, don't let it die.

Morgramen the Magician
07-17-1998, 03:54 PM
I'm starting to think that since we all love Birthright so much, maybe we should
try and organize some kind of internet "petition" & submit it to TSR.

I don't know how many sites I have seen "Save the xyz!" If TSR is thinking
about axing Birthright, maybe we can make a collective attempt at changing their
minds... seems to have worked for Greyhawk.

Anyway, just a thought.

Morgramen

CBebris@aol.co
07-18-1998, 04:20 PM
In a message dated 98-07-17 01:54:51 EDT, Sepsis writes:

> Instead
> of just signing a piece of paper (or facsimile thereof) each of us should
> write a letter to those in charge at TSR and let them know (in a polite
> manner, of course) how much we love this setting, and that we are more then
> willing to spend hard earned cash on any BR product they see fit to grace
us
> with. By taking the time to write a letter and by spending the postage to
> send it, you can really make an impression on corporate types.

Sepsis has it right. Snail mail letters make far more of an impression than
the electronic variety. Email can be too easily dismissed with the touch of a
delete key. Plus, what *looks* more impressive--a stack of 100 personalized
letters with postmarks from around the world, or a computer screen with a list
of email addresses (or the same email form letter showing up every day)?
That's not to say your petition idea should be abandoned, just that in a
pencil & paper hobby, old-fashioned pencil & paper letters (well, ok, they can
be typed :) will have greater impact.

> But what
> will most likely "save" BR is if we refuse to let it die. We need to
> continue to encourage every gamer that breathes to play BR and get to love
> it like we do. Draw anyone in you can, anyway you have to. It may sound
> cliche, but we are in a war here folks, a war to save Birthright. Lastly
> the power of Player input is not to be underestimated. Write up anything
> and everything you can think of to expand this great campaign setting, and
> send it in to the powers that be at Dungeon, Dragon. These are
really the most powerful things
> we can do to protect our favorite setting.

Again, these ideas are right on target, along with Simon's post about
supporting the Online City project. Any company, whether it makes RPGs or
shoelaces, needs demand for its products in order to support them. Evidence of
demand (in the form of new players, article submissions, other player-
initiated ideas like the OCP, participation in BR events at conventions,
positive response to things like the RPGA Hogunmark release and the recent
Dragon cover, and other feedback) creates tangible proof that when Ted and
other in-house supporters abstractly talk about the "BR fans out there," there
*really are* BR fans out there, in significant numbers.

So write those letters (keep them positive). Tell all the BR players you know
to write. Teach others how to play, and encourage *them* to write. Send the
letters to Bill Slavicsek, head of the TSR Product Group. And if you have an
idea for a magazine article, read the submission guidelines on TSR's website:


CB