Unearthed Arcana Bloodlines

[Birthright-L]

I`m curious as to what others think about

incorporating some of the bloodline rules from Unearth

Arcana, over and on top of whatever other blood

abilities and so forth your house rules deem

appropriate...



I kind of think the mechanics fit thematically with

Birthright, as far as taking Bloodline levels

increasing your caster level and level-dependant class

abilities. They give you feats and minor skill

bonuses. I think perhaps the "Affinity" should be

replaced with an environment type rather than a

creature type to represent deities associated with

seas, storms, forests, shadows, etc.



Any thoughts?



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We are not now that strength which in old days

Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are;

One equal temper of heroic hearts,

Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will

To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."

--Alfred, Lord Tennyson







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[irdeggman]

There was quite a lively discussion on this subject earlier. Here is the link to the thread:

http://www.birthright.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2465

[geeman]

At 10:26 AM 6/24/2004 -0700, you wrote:



>I`m curious as to what others think about incorporating some of the

>bloodline rules from Unearth

>Arcana, over and on top of whatever other blood abilities and so forth

>your house rules deem appropriate...



I think the system presented looks like it`d work just fine. Personally,

I`m a little leery in that it seems to have a rather dramatic scaling issue

involved with major and then great blood abilities and effects, but most

people probably wouldn`t notice that if using relatively few awnshegh

characters. When it gets right down to it, however, I don`t know if it is

a particularly better method than others that have been suggested, so as

far as "Rule X" is concerned one could use a character class or this

bloodline system to do pretty nearly the same thing.



One thing the UA bloodline system method of portraying awnshegh does seem

not to capture that a character class does better is that the speed of

transformation doesn`t necessarily have anything to do with the factors

that are used. That is, there are awnshegh with true bloodlines and great

bloodtrait who are less transformed over time than other awnshegh who have

lower bloodlines and maybe not that blood ability at all. The

transformation of awnshegh need not necessarily have anything to do with

character levels as depicted by such a system. As a character class one

can control the speed of transformation in a way that is still tied to all

the aspects of a character like ECL but in a way that might not require a

character have associated levels in another class. That`s a fairly nuanced

aspect of the original awnshegh concept, however, and most folks seem less

worried about it than I am.



There are a couple of other things about the proposed UA interpretation of

awnshegh that I`m a little leery of. I`m not sure the LA values, for

instance, really balance very well, but I`d have to take a better look at

it to say for sure. On the whole, the proposal is rather rough so it shows

a lot of promise as an early draft.



Gary

[Birthright-L]

Thanks for the link, Irdeggman.



If "the Falcon" has done any more bloodlines, I`d

appreciate having them sent to me or posted. Thanks.

Rather than come up with a fixed bloodline system, I`m

trying to transpose bloodlines into various aspects of

3e, so I`m kind of thinking I can take these onto

bloodline classes and feats, as well.



I especially enjoyed Irdeggman`s comment as to

different aspects of blood abilities that an Anduiras

bloodline could focus on, and if you have any

suggestions for different bloodlines as well, that`d

be a help. It`s kind of hard going through all the

material and trying to find themes for different

bloodlines since its not all in one place.



-Lord Rahvin

LordRahvin@yahoo.com





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We are not now that strength which in old days

Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are;

One equal temper of heroic hearts,

Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will

To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."

--Alfred, Lord Tennyson







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[irdeggman]

Gary,
I think you are interposing two different, albeit related, ideas here.

The question that was asked is the one about generally using the UA bloodlines as a mechanic for BR bloodlines/abilities.

the one you are answereing, or seem to be, is the one on awnshegh progression using the UA bloodlines as a base. The awnshegh application is specifically designed to work with the BRCS and not be independent (although it could easily work with other mechanics, IMO).

The 'original' question was, I think, best refocused to Ming I's thread on the same topic, while the latter was basically contained within the thread on the BRCS.

Link to the latter discussion:
http://www.birthright.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2701

[the Falcon]

Originally posted by Birthright-L@Jun 25 2004, 05:40 AM
If "the Falcon" has done any more bloodlines, I`d appreciate having them sent to me or posted. Thanks.
Here's some more:
http://www.birthright.net/forums/index.php...indpost&p=27848 (http://www.birthright.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2465&view=findpost&p=27848)