Vampires in Birthright

[Mario.Floryn@rug.ac.be (]

Since so many scions or blooded people roam Cerilia, I think this world is
a perfect place for vampires.
I 've been playing Ravenloft for 4 years and now I'm DM-ing Birthright. I
think there's a great opportunity here : bloodsucking creatures and blooded
people etc. etc. Has anyone experience of this mixture or ideas???

Mario.Floryn@rug.ac.be
Librarian
Department of Art, Music & Theatre Science
Blandijnberg 2, B-9000 Ghent, Belgium.

[DKEvermore]

In a message dated 98-01-27 11:08:39 EST, you write:

> Since so many scions or blooded people roam Cerilia, I think this world is
> a perfect place for vampires.
> I 've been playing Ravenloft for 4 years and now I'm DM-ing Birthright. I
> think there's a great opportunity here : bloodsucking creatures and blooded
> people etc. etc. Has anyone experience of this mixture or ideas???
>
Not yet, but might I guide you toward the awnshegh known as the Vampire. This
one may give you some ideas...

- -DKE

[Darkstar]

Mario Floryn wrote:
>
> Since so many scions or blooded people roam Cerilia, I think this world is
> a perfect place for vampires.
> I 've been playing Ravenloft for 4 years and now I'm DM-ing Birthright. I
> think there's a great opportunity here : bloodsucking creatures and blooded
> people etc. etc. Has anyone experience of this mixture or ideas???

In my campaign I say that a the blood of the blooded is deadly to
vampires. Scions carry in the a portion of the blood of a god and that
power destroys undead. It is sort of like drinking holy water.
After all I didn't want a whole horde of blooded vampires running around
the place did I now.
Although I doubt an vampire being undead could gain a bloodline anyway.

- --
Ian Hoskins

e-Mail: hoss@box.net.au
ICQ: 2938300
Home Page: http://www.box.net.au/~hoss/birth.html

From the Darkness we came,
and to the Darkness we will return.

[Mark A Vandermeulen]

On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Mario Floryn wrote:

> Since so many scions or blooded people roam Cerilia, I think this world is
> a perfect place for vampires.
> I 've been playing Ravenloft for 4 years and now I'm DM-ing Birthright. I
> think there's a great opportunity here : bloodsucking creatures and blooded
> people etc. etc. Has anyone experience of this mixture or ideas???

In my games, I prefer all regular vampires to be sired by and therefore
servants of the awnsheighlein known as the Vampire (located in The
Vampire's Hold, strangely enough, in the southern Brecht lands). I see
them as in some ways the perfect spies and assassins for his nefarious
schemes. I allow vampires to suck 1 bloodline strength point for every 10
hp damage they do when "sucking." Obviously it is better to keep your prey
around for a while, gradually drawing down their blood strength, rather
than doing the "big gulp." Of course, the Vampire regularly takes his
"tribute" from all of his servants, thus strengthening his own bloodline.
In order to make a vampire, the Vampire has to "dontate" 10 rp of blood to
the new vampire, so he'll never have a whole army of them (or at least not
for a very long time). Besides, being of a chaotic nature, while they may
make good spies and assassins, they will never make very good troops.

Mark VanderMeulen
vander+@pitt.edu

[Tripp]

Mario Floryn wrote:
>
> Since so many scions or blooded people roam Cerilia, I think this world is
> a perfect place for vampires.
> I 've been playing Ravenloft for 4 years and now I'm DM-ing Birthright. I
> think there's a great opportunity here : bloodsucking creatures and blooded
> people etc. etc. Has anyone experience of this mixture or ideas???
>
> Mario.Floryn@rug.ac.be
> Librarian
> Department of Art, Music & Theatre Science
> Blandijnberg 2, B-9000 Ghent, Belgium.

Well, with "The Vampire" being an awnsheigh you have a very powerful
one. What is his name? Britter Kalt, or something like that?

Tripp

[Brian Stoner]

Vampires in Cerilia, eh? Now you all got me thinking. Perhaps there are two
kinds of Vampires in BR (3 if you include The Vampire Awnshegh) The first kind
is the normal undead kind that we are all used to. They are damaged/killed by
the blood of scions as Darkstar suggested (depending on the derivation...). The
second kind of vampire is not undead, and actually gains power from the blood of
scions. Perhaps they are spawn of The Vampire, or scions in their own right.
I'm thinking an entirely new creature, actually. The only thing that the two
kinds of vampires (undead and scion sucking) have in common is that they both
drink blood. Other than that, they are quite different and unrelated. Ideas
anyone?

Brian

[Squirrel06]

ravenloft is the gayiest campaign world

[Neil Barnes]

On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Squirrel06 wrote:

> ravenloft is the gayiest campaign world

And to think that after all this time on this list I was worried that
intelligent debate was dead.

neil

[Reality Engineer]

>From: Squirrel06
>To: birthright@MPGN.COM
>Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - Vampires in Birthright
>Date: Wed, Jan 28, 1998, 11:38 AM
>
>ravenloft is the gayiest campaign world

Well, then it should be marketed as such. Just think of the huge, untapped
homosexual market out there who didn't have a clue. I'll have to go pick it
up myself. :)

Seriously, though, the idea of vampires in Birthright is actually an
intriguing one. I mean, if birthright can be passed via ceremonial magic, if
i understand it corrently, why not to a magical creature that drinks the
blood? Just how, exactly, are the forces of birthright, lifeforce, and
individual identity tied together, and what doors does this lead open to
simulation, theft, and non-tradition ways of transference?

ShyOne

[Dozer]

Deadly how? As I ponder this, the term "dangerous" comes to mind. I do not
believe that a mortal may have a pure bloodline to whomever, as such would denote
that said mortal is that god. Effects of drinking someone's blood would have to
factor in bloodline strength, in addition to the god's reported alignment (or
sphere of influence). Therefore, a vampire drinking the blood of a scion to
Azrai will gain some benefit while drinking the blood of a scion to a
good-aligned god would suffer some penalties. The blood of a scion to a
neutral-aligned god would carry neither benefit nor penalty. My reasoning
behind this is that blood is the water of life for the vampire. Just as drinking
tap water will keep a person alive, drinking mineral-enriched water can keep the
person healthy while drinking salt water can make the person sink. Taken in
extreme amounts, the benefits will go only so far while the penalties can indead
result in death.

Could a vampire gain the blood abilities a scion? Yes, but only from the dark
aligned derivations, and then only for a few days. (After all, does eating and
drinking one day keep you alive for more than a few days without?) Drinking the
blood from neutral aligned derivations would not grant additional powers, just a
few more days of unlife. Drinking the blood from a good aligned derivation could
shorten the vampire's unlife, based on bloodline strength of the scion and how
much the vampire consumed. I would rule that the vampire would know the
difference in derivation based on taste and has enough time to react to limit the
effects, unless said vampire has just risen from the dead and never had a chance
to experience blood otherwise.

In game terms, a vampire drinking all the blood of scion to a dark aligned
derivation gains all the abilities of the scion at the same strength. This would
last a day or two. Drinking partial amounts of a scion's blood gains a partial
number of the scion's abilities, but a the same strength. Thus, the blood of a
scion to Azrai with a bloodline strenght of 10 and 2 abilites would grant the
vampire 2 abilities of strength 10, should the scion die during the feeding.
Drinking between half and all the scion's blood grants the vampire 1 ability,
chosen at random, with a strength of 10. Less than that, the vampire doesn't
gain anything other benefit. The strenght and number of abilities would decrease
over a 2 day period. Drinking the blood of another scion would not necessarily
add to the abilities gained. Instead, the blood abilities and strength of the
strongest scion would be granted to the vampire.

Drinking the blood of scion to a good aligned derivation would cause the vampire
to loose a percentage of its total hit points based on bloodline strength.
Decrease the percentage based on how much blood the vampire consumed to a minimum
of 1%. Hit points lost in this manner would not be fully regenerated for at
least a day or two while the "poisonous" blood is still in the vampire's system.

I know nothing of this "Vampire" referenced in other posts, but IMHO, vampires
are plenty strong. Giving them permanent blood abilities will make them too
strong. Thus, any scion killed by a vampire will loose all blood abilities in
its unlife.

David

Darkstar wrote:

> In my campaign I say that a the blood of the blooded is deadly to
> vampires. Scions carry in the a portion of the blood of a god and that
> power destroys undead. It is sort of like drinking holy water.
> After all I didn't want a whole horde of blooded vampires running around
> the place did I now.
> Although I doubt an vampire being undead could gain a bloodline anyway.
>
> --
> Ian Hoskins
>
> e-Mail: hoss@box.net.au
> ICQ: 2938300
> Home Page: http://www.box.net.au/~hoss/birth.html
>
> >From the Darkness we came,
> and to the Darkness we will return.
> ************************************************** *************************
> >