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Ed Stark
11-13-1997, 05:26 PM
While you're waiting, here's an abbreviated, annotated Table of Contents
for the BoP:

The Pantheon of Cerilia
Each of the major deities of Cerilia (the humancentric ones--Moradin and
humanoid deities are discussed in other AD&D products) get fleshed out here
(about 6-8 pages each, give or take a page or two). The basic description
(as presented in the BR rulebook) opens each section, followed by a MUCH
more detailed description of the deity's avatar, the church, the
priest/paladin requirements, and other useful stuff (a few sample specific
churches are outlined). Each section also includes a listing of every known
temple to the deity (not including Vosgaard temples--this is a player & DM
book, after all) along with its location, ruler, and strength.

Strategies and Tactics
In a section very similar to the one from BOOK OF MAGECRAFT (hey, people
said they liked it--thank you; I worked on that one. Rich Baker did this
installment), the tactics of Temple Rulership are discussed from several
different perspectives. There's also a discussion of Religion vs. State in
Cerilia, and, as in BoM, there's a discussion of specific domain actions.

Investiture
Finally--a whole chapter on Investiture, including the Ceremony itself,
the different types of investiture (including elven investiture), and "the
Land's Choice."

Spells for Cerilian Priests
New conventional and realm spells, along with Battle Spells (per
BoM--again, thanks for liking that) and the rules for use.

Cerilian Magical Items and Relics
You know the drill by now--per BoM, including discussions of holy relics
and artifacts.

Appendix: Useful Lists
Stuff you'll want to reference early and often.

Hope that helps make the wait easier.

BTW, I know you will, but PLEASE let me know when you get BoP. I want to
see how long it takes. And check with your retailers--have they actually
ordered it? Have they talked to their distributors? We have lots of orders
in (I've been told), but has your store gotten it/ordered enough?


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Game Designer, Wizards of the Coast/TSR Division
Asst. Brand Manager, BIRTHRIGHT/GREYHAWK/MARVEL Group
TSR Website: http://www.tsrinc.com
(soon to be http://www.tsr.com)

Tripp Elliott
11-14-1997, 12:22 PM
hobbychest@pcsia.com wrote:
>
> BI>BTW, I know you will, but PLEASE let me know when you get BoP. I want to
> BI>see how long it takes. And check with your retailers--have they actually
> BI>ordered it? Have they talked to their distributors? We have lots of orders
> BI>in (I've been told), but has your store gotten it/ordered enough?
>
> Ed,
> My parents own a hobby store and we have ordered it. Unfortunately our
> distributor says it isn't out yet. Something must be gummed up in the
> works. I just talked to them at 3:00 pm yesterday (Wednesday, November
> 12). I'll update you when I hear better news.
>
> Robert Thomson
>
> p.s. We have also had a lot of trouble getting the BR box set from any
> of our distributors. (Last one we got was November.) It makes it real
> tough to sell other products without that one.

Our local hobby store claims to have ordered it, but it has not yet
shown up.

On a similar note, I have been trying to get certain TSR products there,
so Wednesday I tried order them through him. He said I couldn't order
TSR products due to ther irregularity with which TSR is getting things
out.

Now, I don't know how true his statement is, but that sure is bad for
your PR Ed.

Anybody else had similar problems?

Tripp

hobbychest@pcsia.co
11-14-1997, 06:41 PM
BI>Our local hobby store claims to have ordered it, but it has not yet
BI>shown up.

BI>On a similar note, I have been trying to get certain TSR products there,
BI>so Wednesday I tried order them through him. He said I couldn't order
BI>TSR products due to ther irregularity with which TSR is getting things
BI>out.

BI>Now, I don't know how true his statement is, but that sure is bad for
BI>your PR Ed.

BI>Anybody else had similar problems?

I know from the perspective of a dealer, our top two distributors are
having about a 10% fill rate on items that should be out. It makes it
really tough (and we get a lot of upset customers.) Over the last
couple of weeks it has been a little better. I have my fingers crossed
for more improvement.

Robert Thomson

David Sean Brown
11-14-1997, 07:37 PM
Anyone have a goof reason why Australia, umpteen thousand kms awary gets
this book before Canada, who shara a commomn 5000km long boarder? *sigh*
Left out in the cold again.



> Picked BoP up a couple of days ago! So far, and i haven't read all of it, it looks
> excellent. The section on investiture really cleared up a whole host of questions i
> had. And the battle spells (hmm, baaattle spells) and new realm spells are very
> cool. I also noticed that this accessory was quite a collabrative effort (with no
> less than four desingers listed in the credits) so congrats to all involved -
> another top Birthright product.
>
> Dragon
>
> P.S. Ed - The store i got it at (Brisbane, Australia) had plenty of copies.
>
> ************************************************** *************************
> > 'unsubscribe birthright' as the body of the message.
>

Brenda L Santer
11-14-1997, 11:19 PM
David Sean Brown wrote:

>Anyone have a goof reason why Australia, umpteen thousand kms awary gets
>this book before Canada, who shara a commomn 5000km long boarder? *sigh*
>Left out in the cold again.
>
>
I'll second that. I have been hearing about the Book of Priestcraft and
Dragon 241, etc. Here in Saskatoon, Sask. Dragon 240 and the Sept/Oct
Dungeon haven't even arrived yet.

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Brenda Santer:

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abeard@zebra.net (Adam B
11-14-1997, 11:46 PM
Hey I am in Mobile Alabama and none of the 3 stores available to me are
currently carrying the book. I have asked but they said they had not
heard of it but would try to get it.

Adam

David Sean Brown wrote:
>
> Anyone have a goof reason why Australia, umpteen thousand kms awary gets
> this book before Canada, who shara a commomn 5000km long boarder? *sigh*
> Left out in the cold again.
>
> > Picked BoP up a couple of days ago! So far, and i haven't read all of it, it looks
> > excellent. The section on investiture really cleared up a whole host of questions i
> > had. And the battle spells (hmm, baaattle spells) and new realm spells are very
> > cool. I also noticed that this accessory was quite a collabrative effort (with no
> > less than four desingers listed in the credits) so congrats to all involved -
> > another top Birthright product.
> >
> > Dragon
> >
> > P.S. Ed - The store i got it at (Brisbane, Australia) had plenty of copies.
> >
> > ************************************************** *************************
> > > > 'unsubscribe birthright' as the body of the message.
> >

Colleen Simpson
11-16-1997, 04:15 PM
I haven't got it in Melbourne, Australia, yet, if that's any comfort

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> Anyone have a goof reason why Australia, umpteen thousand kms awary get=
s
> this book before Canada, who shara a commomn 5000km long boarder? *sigh=
*
> Left out in the cold again.
>
>
>
> > Picked BoP up a couple of days ago! So far, and i haven't read all =
of it, it
> looks
> > excellent. The section on investiture really cleared up a whole host =
of
> questions i
> > had. And the battle spells (hmm, baaattle spells) and new realm spell=
s are
> very
> > cool. I also noticed that this accessory was quite a collabrative eff=
ort
> (with no
> > less than four desingers listed in the credits) so congrats to all =
involved
> -
> > another top Birthright product.
> >
> > Dragon
> >
> > P.S. Ed - The store i got it at (Brisbane, Australia) had plenty of =
copies.
> >
> > ************************************************** *******************=
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JLR881@aol.co
11-17-1997, 10:57 AM
I bought the BoP on the 12th in Champaign, Ill. Seems they might be trying
to change Birthright to Priests and Paupers. But there is a lot of groovy
stuff in it. Just be patient. You probably have it as i write this.

Neil Barnes
11-17-1997, 03:32 PM
On Fri, 14 Nov 1997, Brenda L Santer wrote:
> David Sean Brown wrote:
> >Anyone have a goof reason why Australia, umpteen thousand kms awary gets
> >this book before Canada, who shara a commomn 5000km long boarder? *sigh*
> >Left out in the cold again.
> >
> I'll second that. I have been hearing about the Book of Priestcraft and
> Dragon 241, etc. Here in Saskatoon, Sask. Dragon 240 and the Sept/Oct
> Dungeon haven't even arrived yet.

Same here. :P

I'm especially annoyed about the Dragon issue, 'cause I want to see that
timeline. The BoP will have to wait until I'm richer. :)

neil

Ed Stark
11-17-1997, 05:09 PM
At 10:32 PM 11/14/97 +1000, you wrote:
>
>Picked BoP up a couple of days ago! So far, and i haven't read all of it,
it looks
>excellent. The section on investiture really cleared up a whole host of
questions i
>had. And the battle spells (hmm, baaattle spells) and new realm spells are
very
>cool. I also noticed that this accessory was quite a collabrative effort
(with no
>less than four desingers listed in the credits) so congrats to all involved -
>another top Birthright product.
>
>Dragon
>
>P.S. Ed - The store i got it at (Brisbane, Australia) had plenty of copies.
>
Hey, thanks! Both for the compliments and for the info on where you got it.
That's our first report of a non-US shipment (well, mine, anyway). I can
rest easier, now ...


-- ->-- ->-- ->--@
Ed Stark
Game Designer, Wizards of the Coast/TSR Division
Asst. Brand Manager, BIRTHRIGHT/GREYHAWK/MARVEL Group
TSR Website: http://www.tsrinc.com
(soon to be http://www.tsr.com)

Ed Stark
11-17-1997, 05:19 PM
At 07:22 AM 11/14/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Our local hobby store claims to have ordered it, but it has not yet
>shown up.

Well, it could be in the pipeline ... I hope.

>On a similar note, I have been trying to get certain TSR products there,
>so Wednesday I tried order them through him. He said I couldn't order
>TSR products due to ther irregularity with which TSR is getting things
>out.
>
>Now, I don't know how true his statement is, but that sure is bad for
>your PR Ed.

Yes, it is. It does make me wonder, though. Except for this year, TSR has
been the most reliable source of gaming material on the planet. Every other
company I've ever worked for or done business with (that's a lot) has gone
through more than a few periods of missed ship dates, delayed payments, and
other scheduling problems. Does this guy carry any gaming stuff at
all--since we're all so unreliable.

Sorry I'm ranting ... I guess I'm too close to this subject.

Ed Stark
11-17-1997, 06:18 PM
At 10:19 AM 11/16/97 -0400, you wrote:
>The long awaited Book of Priestcraft arrived in Raleigh, North Carolina
>on Saturday, November 15. Any word yet on a reprinting of the Book of
>Magecraft?

We're working on it ...

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Ed Stark
Game Designer, Wizards of the Coast/TSR Division
Asst. Brand Manager, BIRTHRIGHT/GREYHAWK/MARVEL Group
TSR Website: http://www.tsrinc.com
(soon to be http://www.tsr.com)

Christopher G. Kira
11-18-1997, 01:45 AM
> disconected their phones, weren't doing mail order anymore, etc. Thank god
> for Crazy Egors; no discount, but lots of OOP items...)

And.... where is this crazy Egor's, that I might partake in their OOP
stuff? ;)

CK