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Joao Medeiros
11-30-1996, 12:00 AM
Did everyone get my post on this? I sent one in, but I haven't
gotten it back from the mailing list yet so I'm not sure if it made it or not.
-Joao Medeiros
lcgm@elogica.com.br

Dan Medeiros
11-30-1996, 12:00 AM
At 11:43 07/08/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Joao Medeiros wrote:
>
>> Did everyone get my post on this? I sent one in, but I haven't
>> gotten it back from the mailing list yet so I'm not sure if it made it or
not.
>> -Joao Medeiros
>> lcgm@elogica.com.br
>
>
> I'm not sure if I got the post or not. What did it say?

I gave several of my ideas for a connection between Ravenloft and
Birthright, including the shadoworld. Did you recieve that post?

-Joao Medeiros
lcgm@elogica.com.br

Kurt Wiegel
08-06-1997, 03:41 PM
Has anyone else noticed a definate link between Ravenloft and
Birthright? well, maybe link is a strong word. How about similarity. I
have a small thesis on this subject, and would like some feedback on it.

Superficially, Stradh von Zarovich sounds like a Vos name to me. If
that were all, I would discount this entire abtch of theories as I would
a Brecht agreement. But, When Stradh took over the land of Barovia in a
war, he claimed that "He was the land, the land was he." or words to that
effect. Stradh also dabbled in magic, particularly necromancy. Now here
is where the theory gets a little rough. Assuming that Azrai did not die
when he was "killed" at Diesmaar, then it is possible that he
transplanted himself into another form. That of a demi-plane. Now, if
that is the case, then it's possible that he feeds on evil, much as an
evil god would. So, Azrai had planned an escape path, becoming a plane.

Now then, it's a little hard to believe that no one on Cerilia knew
about all of this going on. It is possible, though, since a titanic war
was going on and those do make it a little hard to concentratre on other
things than the Oorog about to stick his pike through your liver. So, who
would be the most likely candidate to know about all of theis evil
foolishness going on? Probably the Matestians, as they were the most wise
and magically inclined of ther races. So, the Matestians saw what the
Shadow was up to, and realized that someone had to put a stop to it,
immediately if not sooner. So when Azrai went off to become the Dem plane
of dread, then they went with him, through other conduits in the
multiverse, and became the Visanti, wandering around on the plane, trying
to keep things under control. However, over the years in Ravenloft, many
generations, and a day or two in Darkon, it's likely that they forgot
their origins, and hve constructed the stories they now have.

So, when Azrai/Ravenloft finds a particularly evil personage in the
multiverse, it pull them in and basically grants them bloodline like
powers and domains. As their evil festers and grows, so does their
power. And if Azrai ever wants to come back to Cerilia, the one that got
away, he could harvest the power on the plane and basically become a god
again.

Let me know what you think about this. I'm thinking about working
this thread into my game at some point in the near future, and always
appreciate input.

Kurt N. Wiegel

wiegelkn@wave.st.usm.edu

Mutami@aol.co
08-07-1997, 02:45 AM
I like it.

Kurt Wiegel
08-07-1997, 04:43 PM
On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Joao Medeiros wrote:

> Did everyone get my post on this? I sent one in, but I haven't
> gotten it back from the mailing list yet so I'm not sure if it made it or not.
> -Joao Medeiros
> lcgm@elogica.com.br


I'm not sure if I got the post or not. What did it say?



>
> ************************************************** *************************
> > 'unsubscribe birthright' as the body of the message.
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Kurt Wiegel
08-07-1997, 08:41 PM
On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Dan Medeiros wrote:

> I gave several of my ideas for a connection between Ravenloft and
> Birthright, including the shadoworld. Did you recieve that post?
>
> -Joao Medeiros
> lcgm@elogica.com.br


No, I never got that. Believe me, I'd love to see it. Either
repost it and/or send it directly to me.

Kurt Wiegel
wiegelkn@wave.st.usm.edu

> ************************************************** *************************
> > 'unsubscribe birthright' as the body of the message.
>

Tripp Elliott
08-07-1997, 10:43 PM
Dan Medeiros wrote:

> I gave several of my ideas for a connection between Ravenloft and
> Birthright, including the shadoworld. Did you recieve that post?
>
> -Joao Medeiros
> lcgm@elogica.com.br

Yes, that one came out, I received it yesterday I think.

Tripp

Dennis J. Mobley
08-07-1997, 10:46 PM
Kurt Wiegel wrote:
>
> On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Dan Medeiros wrote:
>
> > I gave several of my ideas for a connection between Ravenloft and
> > Birthright, including the shadoworld. Did you recieve that post?
> >
> > -Joao Medeiros
> > lcgm@elogica.com.br
>
> No, I never got that. Believe me, I'd love to see it. Either
> repost it and/or send it directly to me.
>
> Kurt Wiegel
> wiegelkn@wave.st.usm.edu
>
> > ************************************************** *************************
> > > > 'unsubscribe birthright' as the body of the message.
> >
> ************************************************** *************************
> > 'unsubscribe birthright' as the body of the message.
Please repost it......

Brandon Quina
08-08-1997, 02:08 AM
birthright@MPGN.COM wrote:
> > I gave several of my ideas for a connection between
> > Ravenloft and Birthright, including the shadoworld. Did you recieve
> > that post?

Never saw it, but I would like to.. Post it to me, or repost it--
depending on how many people did get it..

- --
Brandon Quina DM of a Birthright PBEM
lore@tmgbbs.com http://www.tmgbbs.com/lore/index.htm

Mutami@aol.co
08-08-1997, 04:28 AM
I got the RL link post. Most excellent